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Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg191592#msg191592
« on: November 02, 2010, 09:41:05 pm »
NAME:
Mind Control
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target one of your opponent's creatures on the field and take control of it. At the end of the turn, the opponent's creature is returned.
NAME:
Brainwash
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target one of your opponent's creatures on the field and take control of it. At the end of the turn, the opponent's creature is returned. Absorbs 1 random quanta from your opponent for each attack points and health points the creature you brainwashed has and returns the quanta as  :darkness quanta.
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
-Example for second ability on the upgraded card if you don't understand: Let's say you brainwash a crimson dragon, which is 12/3. It has 12 attack and 3 health. 12 attack points and 3 health points. So that means you get 15 random quanta from your opponent, and it returns to you as darkness quanta :D
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg191595#msg191595
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 09:45:16 pm »
Waaaaay OP.  One creature I could see, but all of them?  This card would have to cost significantly greater amounts of :darkness in order to have this be balanced.  And then the upped version adds Adrenaline to it for the exact same cost while removing it afterward.  With this card you literally have the possibility of killing your opponent in 2 turns.  This needs some revision.
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg191602#msg191602
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 09:50:36 pm »
I agree, this is very OP, especially against FG's
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg191608#msg191608
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 09:56:27 pm »
It should cost 5 to take original control of a single creature, then, upped, it costs 12, but takes control of all creatures.
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg191625#msg191625
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 10:06:37 pm »
Yeah i can kinda understand =P ok ill edit it to wat nepyrcros said =P

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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg192203#msg192203
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 11:26:24 am »
You can't control ALL creatures, that would be OP. Try controlling a definite amount, and make sure it absorbs remaining :darkness quanta.
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg192212#msg192212
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 11:30:25 am »
You can't control ALL creatures, that would be OP. Try controlling a definite amount, and make sure it absorbs remaining :darkness quanta.
I'm agree. That can not be. Even if it's just a turn. But I like the unupgraded version. I recomend you to continue that way with the upgraded too.

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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg193082#msg193082
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 07:46:14 am »
Yeah, or to make it even cheaper, sacrifice a creature and make it only cost like 1 :darkness quanta only.
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg193209#msg193209
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 12:53:58 pm »
Or to controll all creatures with less than 3 hp for one turn. That wouldn't be too OP imo

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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg193211#msg193211
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 01:05:59 pm »
Yeah, but it would be unlikely there would be so many of them in one game. Unless it's a FFQ deck of course.
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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg193321#msg193321
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 05:03:56 pm »
well... it was an idea for not to have the same card but cheaper. If they do different things its much better imo and, of course, have all the creatures of your opponent with less than 3hp for one tourn could be much better than chosing just one, but also could be worse if you opponent doesn't have (in a gravitation deck for example). But if he plays, as you said, a FFQ's deck...
I think this idea could be funny but I would understand if you discard it for some reasons like immediatly defeat of some FG.

But the most important think is to make this idea go on. IMO the game needs this kind of CC.

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Re: Mind Control | Brainwash https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15024.msg193337#msg193337
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 05:33:09 pm »
Please take this as positive, constructive critism, but I have noticed a trend of your card ideas are essentially those from MtG. That's not to say drawing inspiration from MtG, or other CCGs, is bad, only in that there is an unwritten rule that new Element cards should be as unique as possible and not a carbon copy of other card games. There are a lot of mechanics in MtG that won't fit here, whether they are due to conflicting game themes or way too OP to slide into Elements. Also, some sort of card image/art is really helpful for people to get a more visual understanding of what you are trying to convey.

As for the card stated above, the unupped version could "borrow" the opponent's creature for 1 turn and the upped could borrow for 2 turns. Otherwise, IMO, the card as stated would be too OP, especially for the cost.


 

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