Mind Bauble | Thought Bauble

[OdinVanguard]

NAME: Mind Bauble ELEMENT: Aether COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Lateral Thought: Discard a card from your hand. Gain an extra card of the same element next draw.	NAME: Thought Bauble ELEMENT: Aether COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Lateral Thought: Discard a card from your hand. Gain an extra card of the same element next draw.

ART: OdinVanguard I made a whole bunch of these geometric patterns back in highschool and created desktop backgrounds out of them. I still have all the old line art files, so I decided to put them to use here. This is just one of those thats been mapped to a sphere using GIMP, along with some fun lighting / filter work. If people seem interested, I can put the designs up in the Card Art section (desktops and / or line arts) for others to have fun with. IDEA: OdinVanguard NOTES: The idea is to prove players a means to compensate for bad draws or opponents with hard counters. The mechanics should be fairly straight forward. The player picks a card from their hand to discard. The next time the player draws a card, they will get a second one at the same time.  The second card will be of the same element as the one they discarded If the bauble is destroyed, stolen, etc. before they draw another card, then they don't get the new card. In the event of a steal, your opponent will get a random new card on their next draw if the bauble had a card stored up. In the event that it is somehow frozen, delayed etc. It will not give an extra card on draws until it unfreezes (but the next draw after it unfreezes the owner still gets their new card if they have one coming to them). SERIES:

Spoiler for old version:

NAME: Mind Bauble ELEMENT: Aether COST: 1 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Lateral Thought: Discard a card from your hand. Gain an extra card of the same element next draw.	NAME: Thought Bauble ELEMENT: Aether COST: 1 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Lateral Thought: Discard a card from your hand. Gain an extra card of the same element next draw.

ART: OdinVanguard I made a whole bunch of these geometric patterns back in highschool and created desktop backgrounds out of them. I still have all the old line art files, so I decided to put them to use here. This is just one of those thats been mapped to a sphere using GIMP, along with some fun lighting / filter work. If people seem interested, I can put the designs up in the Card Art section (desktops and / or line arts) for others to have fun with. IDEA: OdinVanguard NOTES: The idea is to prove players a means to compensate for bad draws or opponents with hard counters. The mechanics should be fairly straight forward. The player picks a card from their hand to discard. The next time the player draws a card, they will get a second one at the same time.  The second card will be of the same element as the one they discarded If the bauble is destroyed, stolen, etc. before they draw another card, then they don't get the new card. In the event of a steal, your opponent will get a random new card on their next draw if the bauble had a card stored up. In the event that it is somehow frozen, delayed etc. It will not give an extra card on draws until it unfreezes (but the next draw after it unfreezes the owner still gets their new card if they have one coming to them). SERIES:

[Zam888]

Just a thought...

If Mindgate is 5/4 to play, and costs 2 to pretty much give you a random card, shouldn't this be comparable in terms of cost to play? You are guaranteed the element of your choice, and the card you choose to discard is most likely of low value to you in the current situation.

[jawdirk]

Just a thought...

If Mindgate is 5/4 to play, and costs 2 to pretty much give you a random card, shouldn't this be comparable in terms of cost to play? You are guaranteed the element of your choice, and the card you choose to discard is most likely of low value to you in the current situation.

My intuition is that it is too expensive as is. It is true that the card you are discarding is probably of low value (e.g. it is probably a second mind bauble  ), but the card you get is probably also of low value. The bottom line is that you can't get card advantage with this, and you can with mindgate.

I would also suggest that the effect should be immediate. I don't see any reason to make the player wait until next turn. They already waited a turn to use the ability.

I assume that you have a chance of getting a pillar/pendulum (like SoSe). That would make it a little useful against nightmare.

[OdinVanguard]

Just a thought...

If Mindgate is 5/4 to play, and costs 2 to pretty much give you a random card, shouldn't this be comparable in terms of cost to play? You are guaranteed the element of your choice, and the card you choose to discard is most likely of low value to you in the current situation.

Just a thought...

If Mindgate is 5/4 to play, and costs 2 to pretty much give you a random card, shouldn't this be comparable in terms of cost to play? You are guaranteed the element of your choice, and the card you choose to discard is most likely of low value to you in the current situation.

My intuition is that it is too expensive as is. It is true that the card you are discarding is probably of low value (e.g. it is probably a second mind bauble  ), but the card you get is probably also of low value. The bottom line is that you can't get card advantage with this, and you can with mindgate.

I would also suggest that the effect should be immediate. I don't see any reason to make the player wait until next turn. They already waited a turn to use the ability.

I assume that you have a chance of getting a pillar/pendulum (like SoSe). That would make it a little useful against nightmare.

...Two conflicting opinions... Maybe a poll is in order?

-The point about card advantage is one of my two reasons for making it this cheap to play. The other being that it will be more useful early game when a player is trying to compensate for a bad draw.

-I can drop the skill cost a little if people think it should be lower. I thought any lower would be too cheap myself...
On the other hand, I don't want it to overshadow mind gate too much.

-I don't mind dropping the delayed gratification too much either. It was meant as a balancing mechanism to justify a low cost... Although in a way I kind of like the added risk of losing two cards if a shrewd opponent times a steal or deflag cleverly.

-Yes, pillars are included. It basically just picks a card of the chosen element out of a hat (basically just like SoSe but limited to a particular element based on discard choice)

I think the key difference is that this card is meant more as a means to recycle cards you don't need, whereas mindgate is to gain new ones (same with SoSE)

[Chapuz]

Interesting... Make the skill cost only 1 quanta ( or  ) so it wouldbe more usable

[OdinVanguard]

So from the polling so far I get:

-Raise casting cost, lower skill cost to 1 , and make gaining the new card instant

I'm going to wait for a little more feedback before officially updating, but here's the prototype for the new card:

Upped version will be identical except casting cost will be (making it useable in a wider range of decks)

[OdinVanguard]

Updated. New version has increased cast cost of 2 | 2 and decreased skill cost of | .

Poll reset for voting on this version.

[Camoninja]

What happens with ghosts, is there damage evasion? And what about other cards? I can see this becoming powerful by turning quantum towers into shards.

[OdinVanguard]

What happens with ghosts, is there damage evasion? And what about other cards? I can see this becoming powerful by turning quantum towers into shards.

Since you are discarding a card, the ghost would still damage you.
As for shards, the idea is that this functions similar to SoSe as far as card generation goes, just restricted to whatever element the discarded card was. SoSe wont give you shards or other "restricted" cards (like relic or malignant cell) so neither will this.

[choongmyoung]

Oh, Mindgate + this + Mark of entropy will be veery funny deck.

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My option: and  skill for unupped |  and  skill for upped
or    |   

[Annele]

CURATOR COMMENT

This card will not be permitted into the Crucible due to one or more of the following errors:

• Table filled out incorrectly.

Correct these errors as soon as possible and feel free to submit again when ready.

Thank you. ^_^


If the card costs random quanta then this must be expressed without quanta symbol, not the symbol.

[OdinVanguard]

Fixed... Good to know.