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Mighty Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=374.msg5142#msg5142
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:54 pm »

I like the effect, just not the card name/concept. Maybe something like Ferocity, Adrenaline, Berzerk, or Feral Rage? In a fit of rage, the creature's strength increases at the cost of its defensive capabilities.
Like I said there earlier, decreasing defense is not good enough. It has to be something that can potentially KILL you because that's what this card does to creatures with 1 or 2 HP.

I too like this card effect. I just don't understand why so many people try to make up scenarios where getting wings will kill you. Why not just rename the card to something that CAN kill you without long far fetched explanations?

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

That's what I just posted before, wasn't it?

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

If the interface allowed you could add an extra rule that it cannot lower HPs below 1 or something, but the criticism is valid and difficult to work around.

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

But most people will understand that wings can lower your defense.
What you don't seem to understand Oaky, is that this "Mighty Wings" card will KILL a creature with 1 or 2 HP. It doesn't just lower defence, it KILLS.

Think about this. Opponent has upgraded 15/2 Fire Dragon on the table. You give that Dragon "Mighty Wings" (he already has wings), and he dies. You think maybe, there is something wrong with that picture?


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Mighty Wings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=374.msg5390#msg5390
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

That's what I just posted before, wasn't it?
I don't know. I was only talking about these name ideas:

Maybe something like Ferocity, Adrenaline, Berzerk, or Feral Rage?
I don't see how any of those would kill you.

Better imo would be for example when a creature is possesed by a demon. If the creature has 1-2 HP, the demon will kill him. If the creature has more than that, demon will give him extra strenght.

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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Creatures that have wings tend to have very light and/or hollow bones.  If you already had light/hollow bones, and then you received a mutation that made them even thinner... I could see that leading to death.  Not that it really matters. 

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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Creatures that have wings tend to have very light and/or hollow bones.  If you already had light/hollow bones, and then you received a mutation that made them even thinner... I could see that leading to death.  Not that it really matters. 
Lol, I'm guessing that was a joke. :) But if it wasn't, it was pretty far fetched. But still it was an interesting explanation. :)

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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Maybe something like Ferocity, Adrenaline, Berzerk, or Feral Rage?
I don't see how any of those would kill you.

Better imo would be for example when a creature is possesed by a demon. If the creature has 1-2 HP, the demon will kill him. If the creature has more than that, demon will give him extra strenght.
I was thinking of that, too. There are similar Black cards in Magic that give the enchanted creature +3/-1, so I was thinking that perhaps this would be a Darkness or Death card, Demonic Strength, or something. It could be used both offensively and defensively.

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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Berserk may be good because you mindlessly charge into battle regardless of your would and will stab the enemy regardless of the many swords spiked through your chest.

or something of the like. But on the other hand, you could just stab the enemy period, and not be gruesomely slaughtered and forced to kill with your last breath ect.
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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Berserk may be good because you mindlessly charge into battle regardless of your would and will stab the enemy regardless of the many swords spiked through your chest.
Lol. Again.. you are talking about something that makes a creature more vulnerable. But this card can KILL a creature INSTANTLY, even before the battle has started.

Berserk in gaming usually means more attack, less defense. But don't have defense in Elements, we only have HP.

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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

I think a way to do this would be to make the creature like spark, and die after it attacks, then it would make sense

and you COULD consider the hp as defense, except for the last one which is your life but lets not get technical.
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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

and you COULD consider the hp as defense, except for the last one which is your life but lets not get technical.
No, you can't. If a creature has 2 HP, this card will instantly kill it.
- It won't lower its defense.
- It won't hurt its feelings.
- It will PHYSICALLY damage the creature so that the creature DIES.

- wings won't kill you
- becoming angry won't kill you
- being possessed by a demon.. now that just might kill you.

 

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