Menoetius | Menoetius

[Flayne]

Flayne, your example doesn't compensate for one thing... It REQUIRES 4 quantum towers and LUCK to use each turn without Novas and SNovas. I can fuel Forest Spirits and Lava Golems off the Mark.

Nepy, 5-6 quantum towers and Snovas need only a tiny sinch of LUCK, If not that, the rest is mild patience.
Ive already considered black hole and gravity shield as a counter. but thats it.

Tell me how it's better to have 5-6 quantum towers, when you could just make your mark , and start popping a Forest Spirit at about 2/3 the rate that this guy would? No matter what, this guy takes up a consuming part of your deck.

Ive talking about any other type of deck BESIDES rainbow decks.
obviously its much different in a rainbow deck to be able to easily pull out the quanta you need.
im trying to stress the fact that this only requires a few cards to work in any type of deck which has quantum towers and Snovas.

[Nepycros]

Flayne, your example doesn't compensate for one thing... It REQUIRES 4 quantum towers and LUCK to use each turn without Novas and SNovas. I can fuel Forest Spirits and Lava Golems off the Mark.

Nepy, 5-6 quantum towers and Snovas need only a tiny sinch of LUCK, If not that, the rest is mild patience.
Ive already considered black hole and gravity shield as a counter. but thats it.

Tell me how it's better to have 5-6 quantum towers, when you could just make your mark , and start popping a Forest Spirit at about 2/3 the rate that this guy would? No matter what, this guy takes up a consuming part of your deck.

Ive talking about any other type of deck BESIDES rainbow decks.
obviously its much different in a rainbow deck to be able to easily pull out the quanta you need.
im trying to stress the fact that this only requires a few cards to work in any type of deck which has quantum towers and Snovas.

And Forest Spirits require 1 card. Your point?

[Flayne]

Flayne, your example doesn't compensate for one thing... It REQUIRES 4 quantum towers and LUCK to use each turn without Novas and SNovas. I can fuel Forest Spirits and Lava Golems off the Mark.

Nepy, 5-6 quantum towers and Snovas need only a tiny sinch of LUCK, If not that, the rest is mild patience.
Ive already considered black hole and gravity shield as a counter. but thats it.

Tell me how it's better to have 5-6 quantum towers, when you could just make your mark , and start popping a Forest Spirit at about 2/3 the rate that this guy would? No matter what, this guy takes up a consuming part of your deck.

Ive talking about any other type of deck BESIDES rainbow decks.
obviously its much different in a rainbow deck to be able to easily pull out the quanta you need.
im trying to stress the fact that this only requires a few cards to work in any type of deck which has quantum towers and Snovas.

And Forest Spirits require 1 card. Your point?

to be honest i think my example is perhaps solely based on preference, if this was implemented into the game, i would find it easier to use and more powerful than other duos, since it does get +4 every turn, i just prefer that extra 2 attack for perhaps a little more effort, which to me isnt much effort at all. 

[ZephyrPhantom]

@Nepy and Flayne - main problem is that this card requires playtesting, but as I said the concept is rather complicated and MTG-ish - the type of MTG card that doesn't really work that well in this game.

Wow, thanks for all the attention this card is getting guys (good and bad), if I may, I will try and rationalize why I chose the skills and cost for him.  I designed this card to be an "Other" specifically for rainbow decks.  A mono deck user, unless using nova's really wouldnt benefit from using it.  I also chose "Other" because there are no "Other" creatures with the exception of the malignant cell as far as I know.  KNowing it was desinged for rainbow decks that would be using quantum pillars, I felt that it should require more quanta to summon, but no specific quanta required as long as they had the amount.  As far as his skill goes, when you have creatures that can grow 1-2 AP's by only using 1-2 quanta, I felt if he were to require one of each quanta, the AP and HP bonus should be greater than the other creatures, making him somewhat unique.  Yes, novas, and supernovas would help make him grow fast, but with the other creatures, as mentioned before it only takes a pillar or mark to grow so I felt he was somewhat balanced.  Again thanks for the attention, I have two more cards in the making, just working on graphics now.

Side note, I created the graphics for a very similar game, but dont know the first thing about programming, so working on cards for this game is the next best thing.  I love this game to death.

Mechanics > Graphics. I'm still doubtful of this card because of it's huge cost in terms of playing it (the highest-costing card in ETG is 14) and ability (which really isn't that great). Am I really the only one who thinks this card is somewhat awkward in terms of design?

doc_moore_j, if you can convince me that this card doesn't gain the awkward feel of having an MTG concept directly placed in ETG, that would be really helpful for me to understand this card.

[Manipul8r]

I agree it is a bit awkward, although I like the idea behind it.  I don't think it's OP or UP, it's just too hard to tell at this point.  Theoretically you could get it out fairly fast with an Snova (for a 5|5), and start pumping it up quite early, but it would essentially require an opening hand with Snovas for it to be reliable and fast.  It would also mean it pretty much requires specific additional cards for it to be powerful.  Mid-game with quantum pillars it's not too tough to get this guy some power, but it's likely that spending on just one Menoetius will leave you unable to play some crucial cards in your hand, or play a 2nd Menoetius.

The key here is the ability, which uses 1 of each quantum type.  It might work better if the cast cost was 12 and the base ATK|HP was lower, maybe 2|2 or something.  Another option is the bonus could be reduced slightly and it could consume 12 random quanta instead of 1 of each type.