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Should this card give ability Meiosis?

Yes, it should!
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No, it should just act as a spell.
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What should upped change?

Upped should let it split into 3 creatures instead of 2.
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Upped should lower cost by 1.
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Other, please specify.
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Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143046#msg1143046
« on: June 30, 2014, 12:49:52 am »
Well orginanlly meant so I have a better version of PU (better in mutation deck at least IMO).

NAME:
Meiosis
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creatures skill is now Meiosis: Split this creature into 2 copies of itself, with half health/stats rounded up.
NAME:
Meiosis
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creatures skill is now Meiosis: Split this creature into 2 copies of itself, with half health/stats rounded up.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
I want a PU that can create more copies, so that I can use it more in mutation decks.

Anyway, stats are rounded up, the 2 creatures that came from splitting the original one act like the creature had been PU'd, accept they have half stats.

The cost of the ability, is one of the creatures element.
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« Last Edit: July 03, 2014, 06:36:02 pm by Torriku »
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143060#msg1143060
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 01:50:56 am »
Do the nerfed copies have Meiosis too?
It seems underpowered
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143061#msg1143061
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 01:55:38 am »
Do the nerfed copies have Meiosis too?
It seems underpowered

My thought is the use in voodoo decks, allowing for 2 poisoned dolls. The use of turning 1 mutant into 2 different mutants. Spliting up 2 Buffed creatures under SoPa, 1 more target for immolation. another RoL and so on.

What if I changed it to this:
Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Meiosis
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Split target creature into 2 copies of itself, with half health/stats rounded up.
NAME:
Meiosis
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
1 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Split target creature into 2 copies of itself, with half health/stats rounded up.

ART:

IDEA:
Torriku (with much help from dawn_to_dusk)
NOTES:
I want a PU that can create more copies, so that I can use it more in mutation decks.

Anyway, stats are rounded up, the 2 creatures that came from splitting the original one act like the creature had been PU'd, accept they have half stats.

The cost of the ability, is one of the creatures element.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 02:05:35 am by Torriku »
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143062#msg1143062
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 02:02:02 am »
Underpowered.

Same effect. Higher potency.

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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143069#msg1143069
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 02:27:56 am »
It's an in-element way to boost Emphatic Bond and it also rounds odd statpoints up. I see no problems with this card.
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143114#msg1143114
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 08:33:33 am »
Some questions:
1.Is it a death trigger? (original creature dies, and two copies are generated?)
2.Aside from lobotomizing, why would you give a skill to a creature which will lose it soon after? I don't think that being able to do this on just summoned creatures would be bad.
3.How does the first version (the one in the OP) work with a Time creature and SoR?
4.Given that you didn't write anything about this, I'll guess it is zero-cost but: does activating the meiosis skill cost anything?

I still prefer the second one, 2|1 seems good as a cost and doesn't have problems with interactions with other cards.

And, by the way, can the skill be used if there are no slots left? (I mean, you play a creature in the last spot available and then you meiosis it, can you use the skill?)

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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143169#msg1143169
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 02:25:00 pm »
And, by the way, can the skill be used if there are no slots left? (I mean, you play a creature in the last spot available and then you meiosis it, can you use the skill?)
Judging from how Mitosis works when the field is full, it would probably halve the user's stats and nothing else.

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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143170#msg1143170
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 02:27:15 pm »
Reminds me of the card I made for myself (in the member card thread). Adrenaline is an interesting combo, since a meiosis might actually increase the total attack (Giant frog with adrenaline goes from 9 to 24 total damage, for example). This being closer to UP or OP depends on whether or not the copies keep the meiosis. (if they keep the skill then adrenaline and SoPa are this card's best friends)
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143180#msg1143180
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 04:12:02 pm »
With the 2nd version they would not keep the skill, because it would just target the creature, but yes they do keep the skill if its the first one. Also it says that the cost of the skill would be 1 of the creatures element. And has for if it had shard of readiness it would split twice.
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143191#msg1143191
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 06:40:01 pm »
With the 2nd version they would not keep the skill, because it would just target the creature, but yes they do keep the skill if its the first one. Also it says that the cost of the skill would be 1 of the creatures element. And has for if it had shard of readiness it would split twice.
Ok, then I largely prefer the first version.
SoP+Meiosis is a nice combo, and after getting at 1|1 you can simply spam it endlessly, as long as you have quanta.

I still think one of the best comboes would be in-element, though: this+Forest Scorpion for wut-poison. Also, still in-element, there is Adrenaline, and if that moves to the child creatures, I think it'll get us the best unupped FG farmer. And this'd be good, for an element barring Aether capable to farm FGs without upgrades.
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Or a Brave version, but not like there are any meaningful changes.

And this would have its good share of skips (stuff with mass destruction, stuff with 1 DR shield and stuff with damaging shields



EDIT: nevermind, actually a delusion of mine, forgetting that scorpion's skill is an active one.
Still, nice with SoP. I like the first version.

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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143192#msg1143192
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 07:13:06 pm »
Okay, I gotta give you props for coming up with a card that twins mitosis!

It would be funny if you named them Meiosis I for the unupped and Meiosis II for the upped ;)

Halving stats is a little odd... could be very interesting with SoFo at least.

The fact that it creates 2 copies is interesting... and that it is not specifically forbidden from targeting animated creatures.

I could see this being very useful in adrena-staves for just that reason. Combos very well with empathic bond and SoPa as well.
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Re: Meiosis|Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54873.msg1143194#msg1143194
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 07:18:33 pm »
What if upped made 3 copies with half stats, instead of 2 and 1 less cost.

Also don't forget 1 mutant would become 2 new ones of the same creature type.
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