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Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072577#msg1072577
« on: May 21, 2013, 12:46:15 am »
NAME:
Meiosis
ELEMENT:
Love
COST:
2 :love
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Delay a creature you control and a creature your opponent controls 1 turn.  Generate a Fate Egg.
NAME:
Meiosis
ELEMENT:
Love
COST:
1 :love
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Delay a creature you control and a creature your opponent controls 1 turn.  Generate an upgraded Fate Egg.

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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Part of a Love Element series.

Unlike Mitosis this only works one time.  More like an alternate cost Fate Egg.  Where the cost can possibly be used to your advantage.  (say you delay your Love Birds and his Dragon)  On the downside, if both players don't have a creature in play this spell does nothing.
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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072584#msg1072584
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 12:53:57 am »
If it's part of the Love Element series, just put it in the Series box. There is one.

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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072645#msg1072645
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 02:57:54 am »
I do not think double targetting is aloud in the game's code.

I feel this is OP in that if both your and an opponent's creature get delayed, the caster often has the advantage. It also gives the user a fate egg, which is 1 card + 3 :time

For 2|1 :underworld + 1 card a user is able to get essentially 5 :underworld advantage.

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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072663#msg1072663
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 03:22:11 am »
Yeah, but, it's balanced with a couple factors.

#1 - you have to delay one of your own creatures.
#2 - Your opponent HAS to have a creature in play.
#3 - You HAVE to have a creature in play.

Those are 3 pretty big drawbacks in comparison to just casting Fate Egg.

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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072674#msg1072674
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 03:47:15 am »
Someone made a love element card a long time ago, you could use the mark/card background here I think. I'd balance this by adding the cost of sundial and fate egg. The card advantage should be compensated by the prerequisites for this to do anything at all.
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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072681#msg1072681
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 04:07:46 am »
Think this would be balanced without the creation of fate egg, or at the very least put the fate egg in your hand.

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#1 - you have to delay one of your own creatures.
#2 - Your opponent HAS to have a creature in play.
#3 - You HAVE to have a creature in play.
Not that great of a drawback. If you create a deck with this, you will most likely have creatures, and if it's your second meiosis you use, there is already a fate egg in your field. A great majority of the decks also use creatures of some kind.

For a comparison, those 'drawbacks' are like saying: parallel universe has drawbacks of:
#1 Your opponent HAS to have targetable creatures in play.
#2 You HAVE to have a space on your side of the field.
#3 You HAVE to have 6 quarta :p (just to add a third one)
Yes, drawbacks if you think of them like that, but not that critical.
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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072689#msg1072689
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 04:44:30 am »
They are not huge drawbacks, true.  But, they are all drawbacks in relation to Fate Egg which has none of those conditions. 

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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072698#msg1072698
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 05:03:08 am »
They are not huge drawbacks, true.  But, they are all drawbacks in relation to Fate Egg which has none of those conditions.
Card and quanta advantage. Playing Fate Egg requires 1 card + 3 :time. This card merely requires 1 card + 2|1 :underworld and with its delaying function, it helps the user more often than not.

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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072788#msg1072788
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 11:49:42 am »
Cost should be 4|3 by my reasoning.

This is the card I was talking about http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32550
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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072841#msg1072841
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 01:56:26 pm »
I messed up the mark a little, but it should still work.
here is a background too.
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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072861#msg1072861
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 02:51:20 pm »
To implement it into the game double targetting is not possible; either the enemy creature is randomly chosen or your creatures skill is overwritten by a 1time use effect (maybe delayed by 1turn). In both cases this card should be balanced or even rather weak. Are love quanta obtained by pillars or by buffing creatures (Ive seen a suggestion like that too)?
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Re: Meiosis | Meiosis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49385.msg1072865#msg1072865
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 03:10:12 pm »
What's so hard about clicking two creatures? Is that too hard to program?

 

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