Massive Orb | Gravity Orb

[moomoose]

anti-stealth is a semi-vanilla ability with very, very limited applications, at their core, both card are producers at low/no cost, the only significant difference aside from stealth detection is the health, which is a fairly mundane change.  my card was even mentioned by someone else in this thread and went entirely unheeded.  not to mention this card was made a few days after kuro bumped my version back up due to a formatting flaw.

[eaglgenes101]

No, Massive Orb is not a gravity producer. It is intended as an essentially vanilla creature that is only useful when in a combo.

Your card has a semi-vanilla ability, but I'm not sure of what use it would be in actual play, except for its small effects on the metagame (carry one in your anti-FG deck and suddenly Jezebel and Serket are less of a problem! oh noes). My card is intended to be fodder for a mono gravity deck.

[moomoose]

"Each turn   is generated." must mean something else to you than it does to everyone else.  And after seeing my card, you added on some hp and removed the semi-vanilla mostly irrelevant ability and stuck some ms paint art on it and called it yours.  But don't worry, moderators are very liberal here in what constitutes an 'idea' and you are in no way likely to be called an idea thief by them, and all I can do is say "well done, idea thief."

edit- and then you come up with your own 'removes invisibility card', love it. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36740.0.html

[OldTrees]

"Each turn   is generated." must mean something else to you than it does to everyone else.  And after seeing my card, you added on some hp and removed the semi-vanilla mostly irrelevant ability and stuck some ms paint art on it and called it yours.  But don't worry, moderators are very liberal here in what constitutes an 'idea' and you are in no way likely to be called an idea thief by them, and all I can do is say "well done, idea thief."

There are 3 parts to his cards (Hp | Hp +  Generation)
There are 4 parts to your card ( Generation + Prevent Invisibility |  Generation + Prevent Invisibility)
They are similar on 1 part (upgraded quanta generation) [1/6 + 1/8 = 7/24]
Ash Eater | Brimestone Eater is not a copy of Dragonfly | Damselfly when unupped. Upgraded it is a copy.

In other words: These cards are not similar enough to be copies but are way too similar for good taste. If the upgraded  generation is not part of the core idea then replace it with something else.

edit- and then you come up with your own 'removes invisibility card', love it. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36740.0.html

You mean an Area of Effect card? Genres like Pillar or Bolt are too broad to count as copying.
If your form of non AoE prevention of invisbility was used then that would be copying. Using an Aoe is not copying.

[moomoose]

considering the timeliness which he came up with the ideas (orb after sentry was bumped) i hold this person with no esteem.  if he liked sentry but thought "this would be better with more hp, to fit gravity" etiquette would dictate that he would post that in the thread and if he desired to make a card branched off of it, ask permission first.  he did neither thing and then comes out with a garbage response that his card is not a generator, when it very well is.  even more evidence against his character and believability.

as far as the invisibility card, that card does not do damage, unless it was otherwise stated to remove invisibility i would suspect it would not be considered an invisibility removal candidate.  its mostly the timing that is suspect.

[eaglgenes101]

I had not seen Sentry before I posted this card.

Because this is a vanilla creature, if the upgraded card cannot be a quanta generator, it will do nothing - I can remove the skill entirely and have done with it, if that will make you feel better.

[OldTrees]

I had not seen Sentry before I posted this card.

Because this is a vanilla creature, if the upgraded card cannot be a quanta generator, it will do nothing - I can remove the skill entirely and have done with it, if that will make you feel better.

15 hp upgraded or 1 attack upgraded instead of generation please.

[DarkStelth52]

I would almost make them both produce quanta, and the upped cost nothing.

[moomoose]

I had not seen Sentry before I posted this card.

Because this is a vanilla creature, if the upgraded card cannot be a quanta generator, it will do nothing - I can remove the skill entirely and have done with it, if that will make you feel better.

i really have a hard time believing you based on the timing of the card being produced, 'ignoring' the link someone else posted to my card, and your initial denial that it was a quanta generator.  it smells rotten to me.

[eaglgenes101]

I had not seen Sentry before I posted this card.

Because this is a vanilla creature, if the upgraded card cannot be a quanta generator, it will do nothing - I can remove the skill entirely and have done with it, if that will make you feel better.

i really have a hard time believing you based on the timing of the card being produced, 'ignoring' the link someone else posted to my card, and your initial denial that it was a quanta generator.  it smells rotten to me.

I'm having a hard time understanding your logic, too.
Ash eater and Photon are both vanilla creatures that gain quanta generation when upgraded. Would you describe them as quanta generators?
No, when I saw Sentry in the thread, it did not seem familiar, nor did it seem similar, so I did not feel the need to comment on it.

Also, I should point out...
INTERNET FIGHT!!

[Kuroaitou]

As of late, more and more 'vanilla' cards have been popping up in the CIA board; while this isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's important to note that the board is to inspire ideas, specifically new or refined ones so that they help improve the entire game as a whole. Creating creatures (especially ones with no ability whatsoever and generic stats that could be conjured by a random number generator) of pure aesthetic or simplistic value is somewhat detrimental to this process.

The Curators have decided that vanilla creatures will be removed from the polls. Deepest apologies, but if you wish to submit this card with an actual mechanic (and not the equivalent of an Ash Eater with changed stats and art), the Curators will review it then.

[eaglgenes101]

Fitted with new abilities and a new poll. Comment on it, please!

Edit: That also means the end of that internet fight.