Magnetic Force | Gravitational Pull

[BluePriest]

NAME: Magnetic Force ELEMENT: COST: 8 TYPE: Permanent (Shield) ATK|HP: N/A ABILITY: Shield: All spells that target your creatures are reflected back at your opponent.	NAME: Gravitational Pull ELEMENT: COST: 7 TYPE: Permanent(Shield) ATK|HP: N/A ABILITY: Shield: All spells and effects that target your creatures are reflected back at your opponent.

ART: ***Insert artist name*** IDEA: BluePriest NOTES: You cant cast spells on them either. Weapon effects like Lobo or RT would be reflected to randomly effect one of your opponents monsters. Devour and paradox would essentialy reflect back to a random opponents creature, and then if it fulfilled the requirements of the spell, then it would initiate it, otherwise, it would do nothing. Mutating as of right now would randomly effect one of your opponents creatures as well, so it may seem powerful at first, but it also can have real bad side effects on limiting what you can do. Fractaling would also be reflected as well to a random opponents monster (although you would still get the cards). I think that about covers it for what you need to know about this card. Flood would not be effected in any way. SERIES: ***Insert series name and link to series page (if any)***

[BluePriest]

updated OP with images. If anyone has something better that would be great though

[dragonhuman]

too situationel, your opponent will simply not target your creatures or use creature abilites

how does this work with mutatation and some of chaos seeds effects (PU, lobotimize)

[rakazy8564]

Have you studies physics?  This isn't meant to sound like an insult, so if it does, I'm very sorry!!  It's hard to anticipate how one might take to some things.

[BluePriest]

too situationel, your opponent will simply not target your creatures or use creature abilites

how does this work with mutatation and some of chaos seeds effects (PU, lobotimize)

Already had that in the notes. itll reflect off of your creatures and hit one of your opponents creatures randomly. ANY spell of effect, not just some. Positive, and negative. PU would work just like I mentioned fractal would. If you used it, then it, then it wouldnt select one of your creatures, it would "reflect" off of them, and make a copy of one of your opponents instead (on your side of the field still)

[rakazy8564]

Alright, since you didn't answer my questions I'll just point out what's wrong with the naming of your card.  The magnetic forces are different to the gravitational forces.  The strength of a gravitational force depends on the mass that's emitting the force.  The strength of a magnetic force is due to the movement of electrons.  As you can see the strength of these forces rely on difference properties of the given matter.  Also, magnetic forces can be combines with electric forces because moving currents are what cause magnetic forces to occur.  I'll use electromagnetism to refer to electricity and magnetism.  Because the electromagnetism forces and gravitational forces have similar formulas Physicist believe that they can be combined into one grand force along with the other two forces of our world.  That is where I believe you got the idea that magnetism and gravity are linked.  My last point is that electromagnetism is stronger than gravity, 10^40 times greater that is.  Therefore, it'd be illogical to call the Magnetic Force the weaker version of the Gravitational Force.

Alright, enough with criticizing your naming, and some suggestions to what to change it to.  I suggest to going from Gravitational Pull to Gravitational Force or vice versa.  Another is Gravitational Flux to Gravitational Field.  Or call it Event Horizon.

Also, about fractal and PU.  Why not make it so that for fractal you earn the copies - 1 (to allow you to draw when it's your turn) if he fractals your creatures?  Also, for PU make it so that the copy ends up on your side of the field?  For mutate ... Double its improvement, or mutate the Druid itself, or let the effects occur upon the Druid.  Lobotomizing the creatures will disable the card's own skill, making it just a 5 attack weapon.

[BluePriest]

Alright, since you didn't answer my questions I'll just point out what's wrong with the naming of your card.  The magnetic forces are different to the gravitational forces.  The strength of a gravitational force depends on the mass that's emitting the force.  The strength of a magnetic force is due to the movement of electrons.  As you can see the strength of these forces rely on difference properties of the given matter.  Also, magnetic forces can be combines with electric forces because moving currents are what cause magnetic forces to occur.  I'll use electromagnetism to refer to electricity and magnetism.  Because the electromagnetism forces and gravitational forces have similar formulas Physicist believe that they can be combined into one grand force along with the other two forces of our world.  That is where I believe you got the idea that magnetism and gravity are linked.  My last point is that electromagnetism is stronger than gravity, 10^40 times greater that is.  Therefore, it'd be illogical to call the Magnetic Force the weaker version of the Gravitational Force.

Alright, enough with criticizing your naming, and some suggestions to what to change it to.  I suggest to going from Gravitational Pull to Gravitational Force or vice versa.  Another is Gravitational Flux to Gravitational Field.  Or call it Event Horizon.

Also, about fractal and PU.  Why not make it so that for fractal you earn the copies - 1 (to allow you to draw when it's your turn) if he fractals your creatures?  Also, for PU make it so that the copy ends up on your side of the field?  For mutate ... Double its improvement, or mutate the Druid itself, or let the effects occur upon the Druid.  Lobotomizing the creatures will disable the card's own skill, making it just a 5 attack weapon.

Card name is just fine, its about what the card does, and I feel it fits fine. Anyone playing the card will get the point of the name, and gravity is awesome like that. The 2 differences in name is meant so show a difference in power.

Fractal and PU (and any other spell or creatures) work just like how they normally would, except if one of your creatures is targeted, it instead randomly targets one of your opponents monsters instead. Nothing more, nothing less. No need to add a whole bunch of special rules for this card.

[rakazy8564]

Alright, since you didn't answer my questions I'll just point out what's wrong with the naming of your card.  The magnetic forces are different to the gravitational forces.  The strength of a gravitational force depends on the mass that's emitting the force.  The strength of a magnetic force is due to the movement of electrons.  As you can see the strength of these forces rely on difference properties of the given matter.  Also, magnetic forces can be combines with electric forces because moving currents are what cause magnetic forces to occur.  I'll use electromagnetism to refer to electricity and magnetism.  Because the electromagnetism forces and gravitational forces have similar formulas Physicist believe that they can be combined into one grand force along with the other two forces of our world.  That is where I believe you got the idea that magnetism and gravity are linked.  My last point is that electromagnetism is stronger than gravity, 10^40 times greater that is.  Therefore, it'd be illogical to call the Magnetic Force the weaker version of the Gravitational Force.

Alright, enough with criticizing your naming, and some suggestions to what to change it to.  I suggest to going from Gravitational Pull to Gravitational Force or vice versa.  Another is Gravitational Flux to Gravitational Field.  Or call it Event Horizon.

Also, about fractal and PU.  Why not make it so that for fractal you earn the copies - 1 (to allow you to draw when it's your turn) if he fractals your creatures?  Also, for PU make it so that the copy ends up on your side of the field?  For mutate ... Double its improvement, or mutate the Druid itself, or let the effects occur upon the Druid.  Lobotomizing the creatures will disable the card's own skill, making it just a 5 attack weapon.

Card name is just fine, its about what the card does, and I feel it fits fine. Anyone playing the card will get the point of the name, and gravity is awesome like that. The 2 differences in name is meant so show a difference in power.

Fractal and PU (and any other spell or creatures) work just like how they normally would, except if one of your creatures is targeted, it instead randomly targets one of your opponents monsters instead. Nothing more, nothing less. No need to add a whole bunch of special rules for this card.

If you say so, but how does gravity being 10^40 times weaker than electromagnetism make it "awesome like that"? o_O

[BluePriest]

Because it is concentrated gravity. You create your own gravitational pulls on the battlefiled.

[Fewk]

Rakazy is right...

Why would you give the upgraded one a weaker name :O ?

and then there is this other thing i dont quite understand... what does gravity have to do with reflecting spells?

[Zeru]

Change the upgraded version's name. It's too similar to Gravity Pull.

[BluePriest]

Change the upgraded version's name. It's too similar to Gravity Pull.

This is the first argument that I actually cared enough about to change the name. Is a card game for goodness sake, I really dont care about anything else that has been mentioned for an argument to changing the name. But is there any input on the card itself?

And for a card name, I like gravitational flux, but that seems like it is too close as well, anyone have an idea that involves usage of the word flux