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Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg533993#msg533993
« on: August 17, 2012, 04:01:28 am »
NAME:
Lunaspy
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
1
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|4
TEXT:
Immaterial during Nightfall
NAME:
Lunassassin
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
1
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Immaterial during an Eclipse

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NOTES:
Luna as in Latin for Moon.
Immaterial means untargetable.  Immaterial when the card Nightfall or Eclipse is on the field.
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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg533994#msg533994
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 04:03:21 am »
Do we need this? What happens with fractal (play the nightfall afterwards)? 9 :aether + 12 :darkness = 40 immaterial attackers?

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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg533995#msg533995
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 04:03:59 am »
Compare the upped one with micro abomination.
Same cost, but +1 ATK and additional immortal. It's OP.
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By the way, I don't understand the mechanism behind this card.
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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg533996#msg533996
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 04:05:12 am »
We also have cloak :>

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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg533997#msg533997
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 04:05:34 am »
The card text should say "This card is immaterial when the card Nightfall is in play."
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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg533998#msg533998
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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg534000#msg534000
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 04:08:04 am »
So the unupped version is NOT immaterial during an eclipse and the upped version is NOT immaterial during nightfall?
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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg534001#msg534001
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 04:14:00 am »
whoopsies... ok so other recommendations for fixing this guy?

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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg534003#msg534003
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 04:26:30 am »
Suggestion: -1 ATK from the upped one, and remove any skill.
Even without the skill, it's good card with fractal and Eclipse, making it duo.
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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg534006#msg534006
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 04:33:30 am »
I'd say statwise it's fine as it is, though given that Eclipse naturally buffs cards it should get -2 HP. (Vulnerability to Fire Shield should be a considered factor in 'low-to-midhitter' cards that possess self-protection like this, Immortal, and Minor Phoenix. This sometimes even applies to larger creatures like Seraph.)
IMHO, the situational ability does not really affect the balance that much. (Fractal Minor Phoenix uses less cards at the cost of a slightly less efficient cost/damage ratio. In contrast, Fractal Lunassain requires a third card to become more efficient in cost/damage than Fractal MP.)
« Last Edit: August 17, 2012, 04:38:15 am by Zblader »

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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg534081#msg534081
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 11:04:40 am »
I wouldn't care about the effect and go straight to fractaling them or mitosis abd adreadaline ( magic number 3).
The stats for the cost is pretty overpowered.

Then on the other hand, this gives darkness more options for decks so I guess it's nice.

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Re: Lunaspy | Lunassassin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42819.msg534161#msg534161
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 02:56:35 pm »
The upped version's stats are too high imo.  Compare with graviton guard for 2 :gravity or micro abomination for 1  :entropy.
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