Lucifer | Lucifer

[DRROXO]

lucifer=satan=devil=hades and so on they all the same
i feel like a nerd haha i shouldnt know this

[karis]

for me it'sn't  ah...  don't know about it  but wiki say that he different

and i don't know about it before  then, i'm use it 

wiki say:
lucifer = pride
satan = wrath.

[karis]

ok  fixed many thing for this one.

comment it please   

[Higurashi]

Ehe.. yeah, they're not all the same at all. So congrats, you're not a nerd and you don't know. They are all different aspects of concepts as karis just said, and Hades? That's both the underworld and the god of it in Greek mythology.

As for the card, I don't want any creature to start with Momentum -and- being Immaterial, especially not one you can buff. It's a bit too insta-win button for my taste, even if it's very expensive and thus only useful very late-game. It's just not in good taste to make a card this powerful, no matter its cost.

[Xinef]

Yes, making a creature immortal, momentumed and strong at the same time is not a good idea, no matter the cost. Even if you balance it with a high cost most players will still be against it probably. Especially because immortality and momentum are neither nor .

[karis]

for me he's pride   strong enough to do everything by himself   don't want anyone to support  don't have trick to use   only power to make opponent embrace under his feet.

then.   what about upgraded have the same as unupgraded   but not drain all dark quanta?  or + a little in attack|hp  (a bit bored to do that...)

[the Sage]

lucifer bering the devil needs fire or take away the horns and make it more of an angel being before he was currupted because he was gods most beautiful angel then he became evil so think about your choice of quanta and oicture

Honestly, I think darkness fits falling from grace much more than fire does.

[redium]

Please let there be more light dark cards akin to this.

[SickPillow]

I can't be for any card which comes into play with "immortal", "momentum", and can buff its own attack.  That is just crazy.  These are abilities which should require other elements such as aether and gravity... and here you are giving them to .... and all on one card.
 

[karis]

ever say something about change it upgraded form but i'm see he don't be interested by anyone.

and sometime i'm very lazy to make sometin that don't have even one look at it.

ok. what about upgraded have the same as unupgraded   but not drain all dark quanta?  or + a little in attack|hp  (a bit bored to do that...   but i'm think that's greater than immortal+mommentum and still have a concept of pride)