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Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072340#msg1072340
« on: May 20, 2013, 05:23:49 pm »
NAME:
Hive Queen
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
7 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 6
TEXT:
If this card uses its skill, your other creatures gain +1/+1.
:life :life :life :life : All creatures gain -1/-1 for a turn.
NAME:
Hive Queen
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 6
TEXT:
If this card uses its skill, your other creatures gain +1/+1.
:life :life :life :life : All creatures gain -1/-1 for a turn.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
The first ability still activates if the skill is replaced.

- Bioluminescense
- Acceleration
- Butterfly Effect
- Mitosis
- Vampire
SERIES:

« Last Edit: May 20, 2013, 10:18:34 pm by Drake_XIV »

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072378#msg1072378
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 07:05:09 pm »
Sorry, I have to ask about sparktal, haha =D. What happens if you use it's original skill with a 5/0 (or a 1/1) creature on your side?

Looks like a really interesting twist on things. I like how you mentioned bioluminescence. Hive Queen + Lobo + Luciferin + Adrenaline (8 :life + 3 :water + 1 :aether + 1 :underworld + 4 cards) = super SoPa!
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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072382#msg1072382
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 07:10:05 pm »
what about vampire? shouldn't that trigger this as well?
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072469#msg1072469
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 10:18:17 pm »
I guess I can have it trigger like Devourer + Adrenaline, having it trigger every other turn.

Yes, Vampire would trigger it as well.

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072480#msg1072480
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 10:28:19 pm »
Looks like a really interesting twist on things. I like how you mentioned bioluminescence. Hive Queen + Lobo + Luciferin + Adrenaline (8 :life + 3 :water + 1 :aether + 1 :underworld + 4 cards) = super SoPa!

Where is the water quanta coming from?

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072525#msg1072525
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 11:28:19 pm »
It's from the use of [unupgraded] SoPa, looking at the context.

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072540#msg1072540
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 11:50:11 pm »
I think it's the cost of a Ulitharid, to lobotomize the Hive Queen.

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072543#msg1072543
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 11:55:00 pm »
... that works too.  Although, why go through the pain of making it a quad when you can keep it a trio.

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072558#msg1072558
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 12:17:33 am »
Because in a quad, you can use quantum pillars and splash stuff everywhere!

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072614#msg1072614
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 01:32:51 am »
I was thinking Ulitharid, but it was kind of a joke about the totally insane crazy combos possible with this card anyway.
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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072648#msg1072648
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 03:05:35 am »
Use skill is hard to define. If we go by the conventional, as in what I first understood it to be (hey look at me! I'm everyone!), "Using" a skill requires you spending quanta. Therefore, acceleration, vampire, and quanta generation do not count as using skills.

Why the need for a redundant ability? Why not just have it vanilla but have its first ability be passive?

If we do count vampire and acceleration and quanta generation as "using" skills, then this can get out of hand very quickly, with a +1/+1 to ALL your creatures EVERY turn. Slapping LS or accel on this isn't that hard either.

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Re: Hive Queen | Hive Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49365.msg1072688#msg1072688
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 04:43:50 am »
What is the name of this -1/-1 ability? Looks strong to me by itself.
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