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Scaredgirl

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8023#msg8023
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

Ok, SG you may be right about momentum. But, what if the creature has immortality? If you momentum it, which you couldn't. Lighthouse could be like a hidden passive, so it's a complete surprise. Wouldn't it be good in a situation like this? Example: You got an Anubis and immortalized all your creatures. Your opponent plays dusk mantle and protects it, now what?
I just think coming up with new abilities that are almost identical to old ones but are called something totally different is a wrong way to go. It just confuses all new players and I see no point in doing so.

In Elements being able to ignore shields is called Momentum. It's not called Clear Vision, Lighthouse or even SuperDuperPower. So why the need to slightly change it and rename it?

There are millions of different and more creative ideas that are not implemented in this game. We already have an "ignore shields" ability. Maybe we should use our time and energy in some other, possibly a new, idea?

Evil Hamster

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8024#msg8024
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

Yes, my idea was kind of like a 50% chance of momentum for that turn. And it shouldn't affect immortal creatures any more than any other ability.

I don't understand the problem with the name, the card can be named anything. SG, you just seem to have an issue with the wording- when there are already 2 words for it- momentum and unstoppable- both the same effect. This would be different anyways, it would not give the +1/+1.

Forfeit

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8025#msg8025
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

Hmm, I thought we were chageing the wording because of a different element, because I thought it would be nice to have more than one way to get past shields without getting rid of them. But apperatly I was 'desperatly trying to get a crappy idea to work', even though I admited it wasn't the best idea.

bobcamel

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8923#msg8923
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

As many people said, a card to counter one card is a practically useless card.

The Lighthouse could be used to give a "Blinded" debuff to target creatures, that makes them miss with about 70% chance.

Blazeraid

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8924#msg8924
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

Perhaps this could be just an added effect to light towers (as to other element specific powers to their respective towers) as a boost to mono decks?

Sigh

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8925#msg8925
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

Towers already have too much going on in their psycho-twisted monolithic-ness. No need for them to do anything else.

Blazeraid

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8926#msg8926
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

Mark, then? Same issue?

Sigh

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8927#msg8927
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

Mark would maybe be okay, but there would need to be a way for people to get it upgraded to be with that effect without either A:giving EVERYONE the ability, making the card in question useless, or B:Forcing yourself (Zan) to make similar effects for all of the other marks. Or both of them put together, but both of them together is not a bad idea though...I mean, marks are already clickable, why not give them a non-passive ability?

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8928#msg8928
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

Mark would maybe be okay, but there would need to be a way for people to get it upgraded to be with that effect without either A:giving EVERYONE the ability, making the card in question useless, or B:Forcing yourself (Zan) to make similar effects for all of the other marks. Or both of them put together, but both of them together is not a bad idea though...I mean, marks are already clickable, why not give them a non-passive ability?
Have you ever upgraded a mark card on the trainer? I'd put a mark card in my deck upgraded just to play it and really confuse somebody. However, that was off-topic, sorry.

On-topic: How about -seeing as how each element is matchedup with another on the starting screen- give the ability that if you click your mark it changes to that other element, that would help some dou-elements.

Sigh

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8929#msg8929
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I actually did put some upgraded marks in the trainer, and all they did was act like pillars.

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On-topic: How about -seeing as how each element is matchedup with another on the starting screen- give the ability that if you click your mark it changes to that other element, that would help some dou-elements.
.......Huh?

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg8930#msg8930
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »

I actually did put some upgraded marks in the trainer, and all they did was act like pillars.

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On-topic: How about -seeing as how each element is matchedup with another on the starting screen- give the ability that if you click your mark it changes to that other element, that would help some dou-elements.
.......Huh?
For if you upgrade your mark, it can act as either one mark or another, you just click it to switch between the two, that would be cool. Seeing as how marks are non-targetable, and always in play.

Evil Hamster

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Light tower/Clear vision https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=809.msg9205#msg9205
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:14 pm »

For mark-upgrades, how about something like:

http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,392.0.html

 

anything
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