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Re: Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26971.msg345528#msg345528
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2011, 07:04:37 pm »
Holy crap, am I missing something, or is this card incredibly overpowered? after a couple turns, it's a self contained frog generator, giving you a bunch of frogs for two.
Countered by the fact that it is Solid, and it doesn't spawn Frogs, it spawns Tadpoles which turn into a Frog one turn later.  There's plenty of opportunity to Deflag, Steal, Pulvy, etc. the tree itself, and as for creatures, well, it definitely fits Life's rush theme.

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Re: Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26971.msg345606#msg345606
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2011, 11:05:16 pm »
Holy crap, am I missing something, or is this card incredibly overpowered? after a couple turns, it's a self contained frog generator, giving you a bunch of frogs for two.
Countered by the fact that it is Solid, and it doesn't spawn Frogs, it spawns Tadpoles which turn into a Frog one turn later.  There's plenty of opportunity to Deflag, Steal, Pulvy, etc. the tree itself, and as for creatures, well, it definitely fits Life's rush theme.
It is OP. A Solid double pillar would be worth a casting cost of 2 :underworld minimum. (probably worth more)
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Re: Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26971.msg345634#msg345634
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2011, 12:18:05 am »
Two pillars in one is a base cost of 0 + a 1 card advantage, which doesn't seem all that OP in itself.  Perhaps the ability to create a tadpole should cost 2 :life rather than :life and/or the ability for a tadpole to upgrade to a frog should cost 2 :earth?

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Re: Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26971.msg345651#msg345651
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2011, 12:55:24 am »
2x (0 quanta +1 card) = 1 quanta + 1 card
+1 quanta (2 quanta + 1 card) for the quanta fixation separate from the mark.
+X quanta for the activated ability
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Re: Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26971.msg352345#msg352345
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2011, 06:23:08 pm »
Agreed with the OP comment. The continuous Frog production warrants a shift upward in cost somewhere, either a small shift in the chain of activation costs or a large shift in the initial casting cost.  See: FFQ, Pharaoh, Graveyard.

The initial cost needs to jump to around 6-7 or one (possibly both) activation costs need to be raised by 1 point so that this card doesn't entirely pay for itself.
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Re: Life-Giving Cypress | Life-Giving Cypress (was Stream/Tree of Life) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26971.msg352403#msg352403
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2011, 08:26:27 pm »
So, perhaps change card cost to 3 :life, with initial activation raised to 2 :life?

 

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