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leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270405#msg270405
« on: February 14, 2011, 12:46:30 am »
i have an idea for a series.
1 for each element

name:  fire leach
element:  fire
cost:  3   :fire
type:  creature
attack|health:  0|1
text:  immortal, steals 1  q :fire per turn, cannot attack

for other leaches replace fire with whatever

mabe this also:
quantum leach costs 9 random and steals 3 random

upgraded costs 1 less (3 for quantum)

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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270427#msg270427
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 01:12:38 am »
So a devourer for each element?
Why?
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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270433#msg270433
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 01:18:14 am »
It should be better as one creature that leaches specific quanta depending on your or your opp. mark.
it would be weaker but more versatile that devourer.


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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270444#msg270444
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 01:29:58 am »
It should be better as one creature that leaches specific quanta depending on your or your opp. mark.
it would be weaker but more versatile that devourer.
That doesn't answer the question IMO. Why have duplicates of devourer? The card bank is much too small to create duplicates yet. Especially ones that don't fit every element. Light would never steal quanta.
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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270447#msg270447
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 01:32:34 am »
it not a devourer.
if the opponant does not have the right element you get nothing

steal is the wrong word
in the case of light think of it as convincing the opponant to share.
if the opponant is light they would be willing to give to charity. ;D

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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270450#msg270450
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2011, 01:34:13 am »
it not a devourer.
if the opponant does not have the right element you get nothing
Ok so it is similar but not quite devouerer. Why should this coexist with Devouerer?
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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270460#msg270460
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2011, 01:40:17 am »
the devourer is very powerful.
other elements should get some minor part of it

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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270499#msg270499
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 02:17:47 am »
the devourer is very powerful.
other elements should get some minor part of it
The elements are different for a reason. Every element should not get access to Entropy's Discord Scramble, Time's Rewind, Aether's Fractal, Darkness' Steal ...
Every elements should and does have powerful effects that it alone will have.
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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270504#msg270504
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2011, 02:22:28 am »
It should be better as one creature that leaches specific quanta depending on your or your opp. mark.
it would be weaker but more versatile that devourer.
That doesn't answer the question IMO. Why have duplicates of devourer? The card bank is much too small to create duplicates yet. Especially ones that don't fit every element. Light would never steal quanta.
sorry but I was not trying to answer your question.
but you are right it would be best  if it leeched hp or something from creatures.

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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270539#msg270539
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 02:45:20 am »
think of these sort of like towers.  the fact that they steal quantums is balanced beacous they don't stack and don't alwased work.

i see what you mean anyway

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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270543#msg270543
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 02:49:52 am »
I must say I don't like this idea very much (no offense). Each element has its unique characteristics and related abilities/skills. One fits all series seems to break down that wall. Not to mention, as OldTrees already mentioned, devour is one of a unique advantage darkness users get. Why should they lose that advantage? There are pros and cons in choosing different elements in this game, and that's what makes this game a better strategic game.

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Re: leaches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21167.msg270544#msg270544
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 02:52:36 am »
i see what you mean anyway
i already backed down. pleas don't pester me

 

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