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Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg102651#msg102651
« on: June 28, 2010, 03:28:26 am »
 
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NAME:
Last Burst
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
:fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
_
ABILITY:
Destroy target creature.  The opponent suffers damage equals to 2X of destroyed creature’s ATK.  All the remaining fire quanta is consumed.
NAME:
Final Burst
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
:fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
_
ABILITY:
Destroy target creature.  The opponent suffers damage equals to 3X of destroyed creature’s ATK. All the remaining fire quanta is consumed.



ART:
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IDEA:
Actionjack
NOTES:
Can be used on enemy creatures too, but it will just attack you instead. 
IDEAL USAGE:
For the final K.O.  with enough creature, Fire shouldn’t need to worry about the fire consumed, and still be able to cast it twice or trice.  Work well with Phoenix too.

Other more sinister use is to use on enemy 0 or 1 atk creature that give you trouble, for instant kill.  Even better, put up a Antimatter, and feel the love. 
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CHANGES:
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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg102730#msg102730
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 07:39:24 am »
So if I destroy my own phoenix, it will deal damage to the opponent?]
But what if I destroyed one of my opponent's creatures?

I kinda like this. But if all remaining quanta is to be consumed, I guess you should up the cost a bit, or else it's kinda Overpowered.
Other that, I like it. =)

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103456#msg103456
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 02:41:38 am »
So if I destroy my own phoenix, it will deal damage to the opponent?]
But what if I destroyed one of my opponent's creatures?

I kinda like this. But if all remaining quanta is to be consumed, I guess you should up the cost a bit, or else it's kinda Overpowered.
Other that, I like it. =)
If you target a opponent creature, they attack you, but is destroy.  But you also pay for the cost, as well as you are the one whose remaining quanta is consumed, not them.

Also it is only the remaining fire quanta that is consumed, thus don't really see why need to up the cost much more (granted certain combos would still allow you to double cast it in a turn) 

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103464#msg103464
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 02:55:34 am »
So if I destroy my own phoenix, it will deal damage to the opponent?]
But what if I destroyed one of my opponent's creatures?

I kinda like this. But if all remaining quanta is to be consumed, I guess you should up the cost a bit, or else it's kinda Overpowered.
Other that, I like it. =)
If you target a opponent creature, they attack you, but is destroy.  But you also pay for the cost, as well as you are the one whose remaining quanta is consumed, not them.

Also it is only the remaining fire quanta that is consumed, thus don't really see why need to up the cost much more (granted certain combos would still allow you to double cast it in a turn)
Alrighty you've convinced me. ^_^ I get where you're going. Thanks for explaining it to me. =D
I am afterall a crappy critic. lol

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103696#msg103696
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 01:01:45 pm »
Seems quite strong. If I use this on my ruby dragon I can have 45 damage for 18 :fire.
But then again it consumes all your remaining fire quanta. This would be great to use on a antimatered opponent dragon for a last minute EM.

Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103697#msg103697
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 01:04:22 pm »
. This would be great to use on a antimatered opponent dragon for a last minute EM.
THAT would be awsome

guy_fawkes

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103701#msg103701
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 01:26:53 pm »
i don't know...
i'd change the things a little :
cost 6 (i'd remove the drawback of consume all red quanta)
deal X damage to the opponent of the creature's owner

this would be super AWESOME!

i can kill my opponent creatures (and take the damage, but it would be great against otyugh, or purple nymph or even big critters)
i can kill my own creatures and deal direct damage to my opponent (even if he set his shields down!)

Snopel

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103704#msg103704
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 01:33:21 pm »
Seems quite strong. If I use this on my ruby dragon I can have 45 damage for 18 :fire.
But then again it consumes all your remaining fire quanta. This would be great to use on a antimatered opponent dragon for a last minute EM.
AWESOME!! I WANT THIS CARD NOW!! XD

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103731#msg103731
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2010, 02:53:50 pm »
Cost needs raised so that immolate cant supply it power.
I have a ruby dragon out (15 base damage) and 4 photons. I Use this on my dragon, immolate 2 photons, play a dragon, use this card. Immolate 2 more, and summon a dragon. I win! Or if I wanted Overkill, then I could use another of this card to burn my final dragon as well

2(15*3)+15=105
or
3(15*3)=135

And that wouldnt be hard to do. Just pack 3 dragons, 4 photons, 3  final bursts, and 4 immolates, and you are good to go. You could even make a otk pillarless deck out of this. Way too powerful. Needs definite balancing.
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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103741#msg103741
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2010, 03:04:41 pm »
the x2 or x3 should not happen imho...
BluePriest explained the math very well...

x 1 is balanced because you do the same damage as if you were attacking but you can bypass shields if needed or you can use the card as creature removal...

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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg103751#msg103751
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 03:15:41 pm »
the x2 or x3 should not happen imho...
BluePriest explained the math very well...

x 1 is balanced because you do the same damage as if you were attacking but you can bypass shields if needed or you can use the card as creature removal...
Yeah, it should bypass all shields (do you want this reflectable?) and if you want it to do more damage, id say 1.5 is more than enough. You are sacrificing your creature, but x2 or 3 may be a bit overboard. Like the concept though.
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Re: Last Burst | Final Burst (fire spell) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg104262#msg104262
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 03:50:34 am »
Hmm.. what about this change?

 
NAME:
Last Burst
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
:fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
_
ABILITY:
Destroy target creature.  The opponent suffers damage equals to 2X of destroyed creature’s ATK.  All the remaining fire quanta is consumed.
NAME:
Final Burst
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
:fire
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
_
ABILITY:
Destroy target creature.  The opponent suffers damage equals to 2X of destroyed creature’s ATK. All the remaining fire quanta is consumed.



Its still kept to 2X, since that is still very close to 1X (due to the fact the creature is destroy after the spell, thus would never got the chance to make another attack)  The cost is also up alot, just to compensate for its instant kill effect (else could just easily use it at last cast in a turn)

 

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