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Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397182#msg397182
« on: September 22, 2011, 04:51:07 am »
NAME:
Judge
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
7 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|25
TEXT:
:gravity :gravity :gravity : Justice
Deals damage to each creatures equal to that creature's attack.
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
6 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|25
TEXT:
:gravity :gravity :gravity : Great Justice
Deals damage to each creatures and it owner equal to that creature's attack. 
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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397183#msg397183
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 04:55:05 am »
Seems WAY too strong.   With one activation, most of the creatures that people use will be killed.  So, you're having a repeatable effect that's probably better than Firestorm, since it'll take down dragons, too.

The only way I could really see this being balanced is if it's a one-time use effect, and it loses the ability after.

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397185#msg397185
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 04:58:56 am »
that's true...

what about more cost for itself and ability then change it status into something like   3|5  |  2|5?

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397187#msg397187
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 05:02:16 am »
It's like a gravity maxwell's demon that paradoxes everything! Seems a bit OP.

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397189#msg397189
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 05:21:06 am »
It's like a gravity maxwell's demon that paradoxes everything! Seems a bit OP.
Worse.
It is a mass Paradox and for those unaffected it reduces their hp each time until they succumb to the paradox.
The base skill is a guaranteed board wipe. To grand an effect for EtG.
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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397225#msg397225
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 08:44:46 am »
ew....    is that really OP?   i think if this skill can kill your creature too it will have less power...    ^-^

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397316#msg397316
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 02:46:29 pm »
ew....    is that really OP?   i think if this skill can kill your creature too it will have less power...    ^-^
Except people tend to avoid avoidable consequences. Judge would be used with Weapons and Direct damage. Probably immaterial creatures too if this targets. (currently it doesn't say)
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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397320#msg397320
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 02:51:18 pm »
Possible alternate affect: reduce all creatures' attacks (cannot go below half) by target creature's defense for one turn.

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397381#msg397381
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 05:26:12 pm »
or only deal damage to it owner is enough?

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg397386#msg397386
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 05:42:50 pm »
or only deal damage to it owner is enough?
Although that is less powerful than a guaranteed board wipe. It still would remain a way to negate the opponent's entire creature offense. Perhaps it would be balanced at that cost however reflecting the opponent's offense back at them seems more like Darkness or Aether. Not to mention as a creature ability you would be able to activate the ability multiple times per turn guarenteeing victory against any creature based win condition by outpacing them using their own offense.
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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg399981#msg399981
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 03:56:26 am »
no   it's not reflect.  it's deal dmg to it's owner when you active this skill.   but it still deal dmg to it normal target (you or your opponent) each turn.

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Re: Judge | Libra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31372.msg400035#msg400035
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 06:42:48 am »
no   it's not reflect.  it's deal dmg to it's owner when you active this skill.   but it still deal dmg to it normal target (you or your opponent) each turn.
Reflect does not necessarily mean negate the original damage. I was using the term to represent your idea borrowing the opponent's offense as many or more times per turn that they get to use it.
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