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Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374129#msg374129
« on: August 01, 2011, 12:43:46 am »
NAME:
Jinx
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
-
TEXT:
Target gains -1 | 0 after each successful attack.
NAME:
Hex
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
-
TEXT:
Target gains -1 | 0 after each successful attack.
ART:
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NOTES:
I thought that damage should not be allowed to go below 0.
It would work as poison. Creature gets a counter, but this one reduces its attack and not its HP.
Stacks.
Some may wonder on the high cost; I think this is (in a way) more useful than simple poison, except when it's used on creatures which are used for their skill and not for hitting hard. It also reduces damage taken, and the creature with 0 attack still takes up place.
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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374133#msg374133
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 12:51:50 am »
Putting this on an Antimattered creature is just begging for abuse.
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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374134#msg374134
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 12:55:49 am »
Putting this on an Antimattered creature is just begging for abuse.
True. I wrote in the notes that it wouldn't reduce the attack power below zero, but I wonder how it would react when put on an antimattered creature?
I think, if the target's attack power is negative, this would not do anything.

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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374135#msg374135
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 01:00:26 am »
Putting this on an Antimattered creature is just begging for abuse.
True. I wrote in the notes that it wouldn't reduce the attack power below zero, but I wonder how it would react when put on an antimattered creature?
I think, if the target's attack power is negative, this would not do anything.
Let's hope so. I don't really like inverted Grow creatures.
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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374136#msg374136
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 01:01:33 am »
You could probably decrease the cost and phrase it as "Target gains -1 | 0 after each attack which damages it's enemy."

Solves Antimatter issue.

EDIT: Also, credit properly. Is it Nyo or Hyo?
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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374139#msg374139
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 01:06:17 am »
You could probably decrease the cost and phrase it as "Target gains -1 | 0 after each attack which damages it's enemy."

Solves Antimatter issue.

EDIT: Also, credit properly. Is it Nyo or Hyo?
Good idea.
Also, it's Nyo. I misread it for the second time, sorry. Corrected.

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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374310#msg374310
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 03:59:36 pm »
I have edited the cards. I decreased the cost with one and it also says that the -1 | 0 applies only after each successful attack. This could prevent antimatter abuse (and also, its cooperation with Dimensional Shield could've been unfair, especially that it'd require Darkness+Aether, just like the Devourer+Fractal deck).

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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374317#msg374317
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 04:09:45 pm »
I think it's a great idea for a card, and keeping the effect occurence to when attacks are successful looks like it would nerf it well, but I'm not sure if it needs that. I'm guessing it doesn't lobo the creature and replace ability with hex? That would present more strengths and weaknesses for use.

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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374327#msg374327
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 04:38:35 pm »
I think it's a great idea for a card, and keeping the effect occurence to when attacks are successful looks like it would nerf it well, but I'm not sure if it needs that. I'm guessing it doesn't lobo the creature and replace ability with hex? That would present more strengths and weaknesses for use.
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That's another great idea. I guess I'd need to raise the cost, again. I rather imagined that Hex would have a counter, just like Poison.
Making it a skill (like Overdrive) would add the weaknesses that it could be removed with Lobotomise and it would not stack.
On the other hand, it would also lobotomise the opponent.
I have to reconsider, but I think the counter version is better. I'd cast this spell on Dragons and similar creatures, which often don't even have skills, so the skill addition is unnecessary, so only the drawbacks would be significant.
I'll think about it, though. Maybe the unupgraded version should add it as skill and the upgraded one would add it as a counter?

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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374503#msg374503
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 11:20:30 pm »
another idea: make it lobo'able. like momentum, kinda. would help the rather OPness of the card.
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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374512#msg374512
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 11:34:42 pm »
I'd love if it wasn't an active skill. Think : reducing attack so creature with nice abilities aren't affected by shields?
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Re: Jinx | Hex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29339.msg374528#msg374528
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2011, 12:02:14 am »
For the cost i almost think this card is UP and the cost should be reduced. I mean lightning kills most creatures right then and there and costs 1 upgraded. and this form of cc is extremely slow.

shrieker 8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=36 damage and 8 turns before it finally gets 0 attack. granted shrieker isnt a typical card, the time it takes to finally be decently effective is a nerf of its own and the cost should be reduced
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