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Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018238#msg1018238
« on: November 28, 2012, 04:52:54 am »
NAME:
Integrity
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
7 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: As long as you have a creature on the field, your opponent cannot attack more times than you.
NAME:
Integrity
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
5 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
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TEXT:
Shield: As long as you have a creature on the field, your opponent cannot attack more times than you.

ART:

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NOTES:
If a creature cannot deal damage, the attacking role is passed to the next possible creature, if any.

Adrenaline is prevented with Integrity.  Side effects [Delay, Freeze, Poison, Quanta Generation, etc] still take effect as if Adren is still in effect.

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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018250#msg1018250
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 05:21:06 am »
Adrenaline gives extra creature turns not extra combat phases. Integrity would probably count attacks per combat phase. (Aka an Adrenal creature will cost more attacks)
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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018251#msg1018251
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 05:24:22 am »
So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 05:25:29 am »
Adrenaline gives extra creature turns not extra combat phases. Integrity would probably count attacks per combat phase. (Aka an Adrenal creature will cost more attacks)

Yes, that's what the original intent was.

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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018253#msg1018253
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 05:26:33 am »
So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?

Your opponent would only attack once with the creature in first most spot.

Also, in addendum, if the first creature to attack is unable to deal damage, the next creature is capable of attacking in its stead.  This is to prevent lockdown with a single Warden.

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 05:30:23 am »
This seems inconsistent with Earth's other CC (BB, Iridium).  Why is it in the element Earth, other than SoI claiming Integrity as a virtue of Earth?

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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018255#msg1018255
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2012, 05:32:13 am »
So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?
Why would they desire to change the situation? They are winning. 1 Dragon > 1 RoL
However they do have the normal recourses of: killing your creature, healing the 2 damage per turn you deal, non attack damage or decking you.


However Integrity + Protect Artifact + 0 creatures is an interesting problem.
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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018256#msg1018256
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2012, 05:34:25 am »
This seems inconsistent with Earth's other CC (BB, Iridium).  Why is it in the element Earth, other than SoI claiming Integrity as a virtue of Earth?

My original concept for this was a narrow corridor in a canyon or something that only a limited number could pass through, but I didn't want it fixed.  As the idea developed, I changed it to a shield so you don't wall off creatures with Titanium either, but Narrow Corridor isn't a fitting name for a shield, in my opinion.

So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?
Why would they desire to change the situation? They are winning. 1 Dragon > 1 RoL
However they do have the normal recourses of: killing your creature, healing the 2 damage per turn you deal, non attack damage or decking you.


However Integrity + Protect Artifact + 0 creatures is an interesting problem.

Integrity requires you to have a creature to be in effect.

Quinted RoL would only do 1 damage.

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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018257#msg1018257
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2012, 05:37:44 am »
So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?
Your opponent would only attack once with the creature in first most spot.

So I can in fact lock down your whole play with one Quinted creature.

Presume a Minor Phoenix on your field Nr. 1 and two Phoenixes on the fields Nr. 2 and Nr. 3. On your field Nr. 4 you got a Crimson Dragon.
I got a Quinted RoL with Plate Armor, 1|7, on my field Nr. 1.

Now your turn, regarding combat, will be: 'Space', Minor Phoenix attacks with 4 damage, Quanta gain, turn over?
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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018258#msg1018258
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2012, 05:39:42 am »
So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?
Your opponent would only attack once with the creature in first most spot.

So I can in fact lock down your whole play with one Quinted creature.

Presume a Minor Phoenix on your field Nr. 1 and two Phoenixes on the fields Nr. 2 and Nr. 3. On your field Nr. 4 you got a Crimson Dragon.
I got a Quinted RoL with Plate Armor, 1|7, on my field Nr. 1.

Now your turn, regarding combat, will be: 'Space', Minor Phoenix attacks with 4 damage, Quanta gain, turn over?

Disregarding any poison, spell, and weapon damage, yes, that would be it.  But you would only deal 1 damage.

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Re: Integrity | Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44875.msg1018259#msg1018259
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2012, 05:42:34 am »
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Thanks for the corrections. I was sloppy.

So if I got one creature on the field, let's say a Quinted RoL, and I have this permanent PAd, your creatures get one attack at all? So 20 dragons e.g., and one of them would attack once a turn without any chance for you to change that situation?
Your opponent would only attack once with the creature in first most spot.

So I can in fact lock down your whole play with one Quinted creature.

Presume a Minor Phoenix on your field Nr. 1 and two Phoenixes on the fields Nr. 2 and Nr. 3. On your field Nr. 4 you got a Crimson Dragon.
I got a Quinted RoL with Plate Armor, 1|7, on my field Nr. 1.

Now your turn, regarding combat, will be: 'Space', Minor Phoenix attacks with 4 damage, Quanta gain, turn over?
My turn, regarding combat, would be turn Minor Phoenix to Ash in order to deal 7 damage per turn easily outpacing your 1 damage per turn. Wait, I have more CC/Immolations? Why not turn all 3 phoenixes to ash (12 damage per turn) until you kill my dragon. Then I can awaken a regular Phoenix for 7 damage per turn.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2012, 05:44:54 am »
Modified NOTES regarding changes.

 

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