Infusion of Power | Abundance of Power

[dracomageat]

NAME: Infusion of Power ELEMENT: Other COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: ABILITY: Upgrade target card in your hand.	NAME: Abundance of Power ELEMENT: Other COST: 7 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: ABILITY: Upgrade all cards in your hand.

ART: Contest Art IDEA: Dracomageat NOTES: SERIES:

[Kael Hate]

If you can you should upgrade the table to the newest version from here :http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5039.msg56336#msg56336

You might want to draw some comments by explaining your thoughts in creating the card this way and what it will offer to the game.

[dracomageat]

The main design idea was "each card has 2 forms already, why not make use of that?" and with the amount of work it takes to faff about with that template, I really don't feel like going through the whole thing again. Maybe after the league is done I'll have the time to spare.

[dracomageat]

Updated as suggested.

[Kuroaitou]

The cost is so... cheap. And for ANY 1/2 quanta?

In some decks, this card will be a lifesaver (cheapening costs, increasing the strength of creatures, adding more effects to upgraded cards, etc.), but then again, I'm not sure how people will the like the concept of going into a game where both players have non-upgraded cards, then someone uses this, and then has a very distinct advantage over the other guy because of the free upgrade.

Not to mention, this could dramatically affect how Chaos Seed/Power is used. 

Otherwise, up the cost. It costs 1500 electrum to upgrade a card, and assuming this isn't rare, you can just buy a couple of these to gain an 'upgraded' deck whenever you play.

[Iblis]

This certainly seems a good idea, but is waaaaay overpowered. I'd say increase the cost to 3 for unupped and 2*N for upped (N is the number of cards in your hand).

[dracomageat]

Lol at this! 

So at 3|4 it's overcosted but at 1|2 it's undercosted? Would 2|3 or 2|4 be any better?

[Iblis]

So at 3|4 it's overcosted but at 1|2 it's undercosted? Would 2|3 or 2|4 be any better?

Where did anyone say 3|4 cost too much? I think 3 is just fine for the unupped version.

Since the upgraded version is working with your whole hand, I think the cost should definitely be based on how many cards are in your hand, because otherwise people will claim overpowered or underpowered no matter what cost you make it.

[dracomageat]

People were saying 3|4 was too high as most upgrades didn't make 3 mana and a cards worth of difference when it was originally posted for the contest. No such comments have been made thus far here but they were made and I believe SG was among those making them.

I'm not sure I like the idea of having a variable cost. It was also suggested that the upped version be able to unup cards in some way which might be another solution.

[Iblis]

Those people should realise that there is no other way to upgrade cards mid-battle. The cost is for the uniqueness and the fact that you can just spring out an upgraded card when your opponent thought it would be unupped. Sure, it's probably not good on cards like Steal or Empathic Bond, but look at Virus or Dissipation Shield, upgrading those mid-match can completely change the outcome of the match.

3 is perfectly fine for the unupped.

If you don't want a variable cost for the upgraded, then you'll have to set the cost rather high, I'd say 12 at the least. Being able to upgrade your whole hand in an instant can seriously effect the outcome of a match in your favour.

[dracomageat]

I'm still not convinced because, as they say, you're using a card to do all this. I don't think I'm going any higher than 3 on the basic one and I'd rather have it at 2. The full hand version on the other hand should almost certainly cost atleast 5. I'm thinking 7 might work but 12 is way too much, especially as once you have this card upgraded you're likely to have others upgraded too.
Assuming you have an otherwise totally unupgraded deck, I suspect hitting three cards a time would be about average for a deck based off it. This means, at a cost of 5 you'd be paying just under 2 per card (on average) while at 7 you'd be paying 2 and a bit. At twelve you're paying a ridiculous 4 per card most of the time which is crazy, considering the fact that you could just have upgraded those cards rather than this one.

[dracomageat]

Updated according to chat comments.