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Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg268831#msg268831
« on: February 11, 2011, 05:29:49 pm »
NAME:
Fusion
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
:rainbow 10
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
/ | /
TEXT:
Add the Atk+2 ,Hp+2 and skill from the selected crature to the second selected creature.
NAME:
Polimerization
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
:rainbow 7
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
/ | /
TEXT:
Add the Atk+3 ,Hp+3 and skill from the selected crature to the second selected creature.
Example:
Armaglo + Gargoyle + Polimerization
If selected creature : Gargoyle
If second selected creature : Armaglo
Armaglo 9 | 31 Alternate Skill: 1. Stone Form (+20 HP) 2. Gravity Pull
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg268853#msg268853
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2011, 06:57:51 pm »
It doesn't make sense for this game. Unlike YuGiOh, we don't have Graveyards and card revival, so using fusion in this way would waste card space in a deck, and you'd likely be dead before getting out your fusions.

And besides, most of your suggestions are less effective than having the 2 seperate (because a CC card will kill 2 birds with 1 stone)
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg268857#msg268857
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 07:13:11 pm »
Card design tip: If your idea comes from Yu-Gi-Oh you're not old enough to design cards.
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg268860#msg268860
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 07:17:02 pm »
See Chimera for the ETG equivalent of Fusion.

While Yugioh does have some good ideas, fusion and synchro cards work best with an explosive card bank which ETG does not nor probably ever will have.
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg268966#msg268966
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 10:05:20 pm »
If I had a choice, I would say buff all the fusions.

As stated above, this card does not work with ETG Mechanics. This game doesn't have an Extra Deck, and we already have Chimera.  If you are going to base card ideas off of already-existing ones, I would suggest looking at this game and at Magic the Gathering.


Welcome to CI&A. You'll get the hang of things within time, so don't feel bad if your first card didn't exactly go too well.
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269084#msg269084
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am »
Quote from: Uppercut on February 11, 2011, 07:13:11 pm
Card design tip: If your idea comes from Yu-Gi-Oh you're not old enough to design cards.
It dindn't came from Yu-gi-oh! i only thought it would be a nice idea...
Maybe I can make it a bit better...
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269088#msg269088
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 01:43:20 am »
Quote from: BlackDot on February 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am
Maybe I can make it a bit better...
Maybe you misunderstood the Chimera card or the card bank issue.
Fusion has been suggested many times. Later Zanz made Chimera.
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269137#msg269137
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 02:56:33 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on February 12, 2011, 01:43:20 am
Quote from: BlackDot on February 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am
Maybe I can make it a bit better...
Maybe you misunderstood the Chimera card or the card bank issue.
Fusion has been suggested many times. Later Zanz made Chimera.
Now is better and is for skills and with alternate skill.
It make be like a Major Buff with a creature cost... like if you want a dragon to be fused with a creature with a good skill and 3+ Hp and Atk and skill attached then you have to sacrifice one.
Another example:
Rustler + Golden Dragon + Fusion
If Golden Dragon selected creature
If Rustler second selected creature
Rustler 13 | 13 Skill: Photosynthesis
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269155#msg269155
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 03:37:07 am »
Quote from: BlackDot on February 12, 2011, 02:56:33 am
Quote from: OldTrees on February 12, 2011, 01:43:20 am
Quote from: BlackDot on February 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am
Maybe I can make it a bit better...
Maybe you misunderstood the Chimera card or the card bank issue.
Fusion has been suggested many times. Later Zanz made Chimera.
Now is better and is for skills and with alternate skill.
It make be like a Major Buff with a creature cost... like if you want a dragon to be fused with a creature with a good skill and 3+ Hp and Atk and skill attached then you have to sacrifice one.
Another example:
Rustler + Golden Dragon + Fusion
If Golden Dragon selected creature
If Rustler second selected creature
Rustler 13 | 13 Skill: Photosynthesis
Creatures cannot have two active abilties.
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269186#msg269186
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2011, 04:43:10 am »
Well, maybe Fusion isn't a good idea for this game...
Having 2 abilities is something that would need lots of changes in the game and the metagame, a.k.a. lots of coding.
Also, double-targetting has the same problem.

Don't worry, there are lots of unwritten rules for card making, and we all have broken them at least once, so keep the brainstorming going.
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269717#msg269717
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 12:56:13 am »
Quote from: Zblader on February 12, 2011, 03:37:07 am
Quote from: BlackDot on February 12, 2011, 02:56:33 am
Quote from: OldTrees on February 12, 2011, 01:43:20 am
Quote from: BlackDot on February 12, 2011, 01:31:42 am
Maybe I can make it a bit better...
Maybe you misunderstood the Chimera card or the card bank issue.
Fusion has been suggested many times. Later Zanz made Chimera.
Now is better and is for skills and with alternate skill.
It make be like a Major Buff with a creature cost... like if you want a dragon to be fused with a creature with a good skill and 3+ Hp and Atk and skill attached then you have to sacrifice one.
Another example:
Rustler + Golden Dragon + Fusion
If Golden Dragon selected creature
If Rustler second selected creature
Rustler 13 | 13 Skill: Photosynthesis
Creatures cannot have two active abilties.
No.. I don't mean 2 abilities... i mean alternate abilities... It's like the ("borrow" if unborrowed) ("unborrow" if burrowed)
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Re: Fusion | Polimerization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21053.msg269725#msg269725
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 01:23:46 am »
Quote from: BlackDot on February 13, 2011, 12:56:13 am
No.. I don't mean 2 abilities... i mean alternate abilities... It's like the ("borrow" if unborrowed) ("unborrow" if burrowed)
That'd still be a problem to code. I think based on what people are saying, you should stop trying to rework this card, as it is getting more complicated as you try to find a solution.

This is best summed up by Krathos.

Quote from: Krathos on February 12, 2011, 04:43:10 am
Don't worry, there are lots of unwritten rules for card making, and we all have broken them at least once, so keep the brainstorming going.
Even if this card didn't work, don't worry. Even if one petal of your flower of creativity falls off, it grows another one back in its place. You will definitley have other good ideas.
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