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Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207283#msg207283
« on: November 23, 2010, 01:27:32 am »
NAME:
Saint
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2/2
TEXT:
:light :light :light :light : Convert
Target switches to the opposing side.  Can only be used once.
NAME:
Divine Saint
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2/2
TEXT:
:light :light :light : Convert
Target switches to the opposing side.  Can only be used once.
ART:
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IDEA:
Ajit
NOTES:
Changes -
1. Added the stipulation that the ability can only be used once.
SERIES:

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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207295#msg207295
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 01:44:48 am »
Currently 2|2 Light creature for 5 with a skill that costs 4|3

Unupped = 2 (attack) +0 (0<HP<6) +X (Value of convert) -2 (activation cost of 4) -1 (Light/Life bonus) = 5
Unupped = 2 (attack) +0 (0<HP<6) +X (Value of convert) -1 (activation cost of 2-3) -1 (Light/Life bonus) -1 (upgraded)= 5

This means that X is currently set at 6.
For 6 a card could have an ability to spawn creatures of 4 value.

Is Twin Universe + Instant Kill equal to Spawn 5|5? (maximum stats for a 4 value light/life/fire)

I think the cost needs to be upped or even not be available on a stick (as a repeatable skill).
A :light/ :darkness spell would work but probably has been suggested.
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207307#msg207307
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 02:03:44 am »
OK as usual I'm struggling to keep up on the numbers, but ok so perhaps have Convert as a one time spell like Lycanthrope's lycanthropy.
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207318#msg207318
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 02:19:05 am »
You seem interested enough that I think you might like this link:
http://elementswiki.co.cc/articles/mechanics-of-creature-cost/

That is an old version. I am working on an updated version. My new version should be posted in the design theory section within a month or so.

A one time skill would be new and easier to balance for this effect.
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207325#msg207325
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 02:27:18 am »
Legit thanks for sending that link my way.  Understanding the methods to balance will help me a ton!
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207516#msg207516
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 08:16:49 am »
That would actually be kind of OP, and shouldn't it be more :darkness themed?
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207648#msg207648
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 03:07:06 pm »
it is waaay op, need to add restiriction, like creature with less health than it's attack, not just every monster the enemy plays
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207740#msg207740
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 04:52:08 pm »
Please try to fit the stipulation in the notes section on to the actual card.
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207776#msg207776
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 05:53:43 pm »
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Re: Saint | Divine Saint https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16193.msg207882#msg207882
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 08:33:15 pm »
@ joebob777 I changed it to where Saint can only use its ability once, like Lycanthrope.

@ Uppercut while I agree that it is confusing to not include the info about only using it once on the card, I was just trying to be consistent with the cards in the game.  Lycanthrope's ability never specifies that can only be used once.  Regardless, I'll change it to include the info soon.

@ EmeraldTiger thanks.  Fixing the details now.
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