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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190421#msg190421
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 07:50:48 pm »
Ok ill try to make it better.

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190429#msg190429
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 08:00:02 pm »
So, do you like it or is it too strong? Please let me know i want to make it perfect
I'd suggest both a reduce in attack and defence and this could even possibly justify a drop in cost.
Maybe make it sort of "Minor Hydra" and "Ice Hydra" with HUGE differences in attack and hp between them (obviously in :water too)...
It doesn't matter that it's CC vulnerable in first turns, the fact is that when it's wrowing, nothing can survive ;)
You could make it 1|5, and it can grows with every attack something like +1|+1 for each life point lost, like a head per turn, and so that it doesn't stacks...
Ice Hydra could be 7|10, because of the 7 heads... Don't know what should be the quanta cost, though (don't forget Rage Pot OP)

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190436#msg190436
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 08:16:55 pm »
Thats a good idea, Krathos, but i already updated it so check it out again :D

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190447#msg190447
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2010, 08:33:08 pm »
Thats a good idea, Krathos, but i already updated it so check it out again :D
OK, I think you shuld put "Ice Hydra" in the upgraded one... An for mythology's sake ( :P ) I recommend adding some sort of regeneration to it, like +1hp per turn (Hydra renewed two heads for every head lost, maybe not instantly, but that way)

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190457#msg190457
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2010, 08:45:08 pm »
Umm... You really didnt get the idea, didnt you? Lemme explain it to you. When the Hydra (Or Ice Hydra) is attacked, it gains +2 ATK BECAUSE of the tale that it regenerates 2 heads when you slice 1 head off from it. Of cource, you cant do it that when its attacked it gains +2/+2 because that would make it almost immortal exept from fire lances. Of cource you could kill it with more than 1 spell, but if you dont kill it with 1 shot it becomes more powerful. Also its very resistant to poison because it gains +2/+0 from each damage dealt, and if its poisoned by 1 poison damage, it gains +2 ATK every turns. For example, the un-upgraded Hydra lasts for 6 turns so its 6X2 to ATK wich is 12. And there you already have dealt 49 damage (Dunno if i calculated it right) within 6 turns. I dont know if this cleared up anything but still, try to understand the idea, will you? :)

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190459#msg190459
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2010, 08:48:51 pm »
I think reduce unupped to 5 and possibly upped to 6 to reduce synergy with rage potion.

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190469#msg190469
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2010, 09:06:54 pm »
No no you see, now if you use rage potion on unupped you get a 13|1 Hydra, and for the Ice Hydra you get 15|3 so any spell will kill them now, and that does balance the ATK/HP rates. Do you like it now ppl?

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190473#msg190473
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2010, 09:10:19 pm »
There is currently no way to attack a creature.

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190477#msg190477
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2010, 09:15:15 pm »
This would require gravity pull to make use of it's ability, as it's the only thing allowing creatures to attack other creatures. And then, the hydra would, most likely, die.

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190482#msg190482
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2010, 09:19:52 pm »
Does gravity pull cause you to attack a creature or does it redirect attack damage?

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190483#msg190483
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2010, 09:20:16 pm »
Hmph... dont take things so literally.. Despite of my bad english, you still understand what i mean, right? Attacking = Damaging. If you want i can change the word "attacked" to "damaged" in the picture tomorrow, but now im too tired and im off to sleep... so, see you tomorrow. Oh and btw, i already changed the Ice Hydras "attacked" word so dont worry...

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190502#msg190502
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2010, 09:32:35 pm »
No no you see, now if you use rage potion on unupped you get a 13|1 Hydra, and for the Ice Hydra you get 15|3 so any spell will kill them now, and that does balance the ATK/HP rates. Do you like it now ppl?
thunderstorm still can't hurt the unupped, just to point out you missed a spell.

 

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