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Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190266#msg190266
« on: November 01, 2010, 03:48:10 pm »
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NAME:
Hydra
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
8 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8|5
TEXT:
Multihead:
Each time the Hydra is damaged it gains +2/+0
NAME:
Ice Hydra
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
8 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
10|6
TEXT:
Multihead:
Each time the Ice Hydra is damaged it gains +2/+0
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NOTES:
Both of the Hydras now have 1 less hp because of the Rage Potion balance. You now cant use rage potion on the un-upped version, so the upped is much better now. And the image of the upped version is now updated too :D
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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190297#msg190297
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 04:40:04 pm »
Let me just say i have thought of something sort of like this. but my thought here is yes hydras get stronger mostly in attack if they are not killed quickly, mostly due to spawning of new heads. so i think it should start out weaker spawn a head when damaged. head atk/hp half of the base creatures atk/hp rounded down. base creature gets +2/+1 per head. the heads should be immaterial but die when base creature dies. also the heads should not trigger any death affects. this just what i think of for a hydra.
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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190298#msg190298
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 04:45:11 pm »
So do you mean it should be like every time the hydra is attacked it spawns a hydra head? That doesnt kinda work out. This way its more easier. And the hydra cant have less hp or it will die from Fire Bolts etc... so easily.

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190309#msg190309
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 04:58:22 pm »
How about..
When the creature is take more than a turn to die, it re-spawn with added +1|+2(or +1|+2<?>+5)
When the creature is take one turn to die, destroy the card.
Well, the art is cool by the way. Great job..

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190310#msg190310
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2010, 05:03:07 pm »
I didnt really get that... Do you mean when the creature is damaged it gains minus health or something?

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190312#msg190312
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 05:13:31 pm »
Lets Take an example of...
Fire spirit -> 0|2, poisoned 1
It will took more than one turn to die, right, since the hp is 2 and poison is 1?
It just same like What i mean, but, it's not like phoenix that turn into an ash first to regenerate to phoenix again, i mean, it's automatically regenerate but gained +1|+2 OR +1|+?
? is a number that more than 2 and less than five(thats why i write it as +2<?>+5)
More than five, I think it was a little bit big.. especially for creature, except it has delay effect for it..

I mean like that. If you still confuse, i will try to make the slide. Thanks for responding.

Edit Tue, 2Nov2010 00:49 am +07:00 GMT = More than "FIVE", not "FIRE" XD

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190313#msg190313
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 05:14:57 pm »
Right now most would think this is too powerful as it is now. Let some people tell you what they think. make any needed changes. then later with this one as your template, you could even make hydras for other elements.
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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190340#msg190340
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 06:06:04 pm »
Right now most would think this is too powerful as it is now. Let some people tell you what they think. make any needed changes. then later with this one as your template, you could even make hydras for other elements.
I dont think its too strong bcs of the quanta cost. Like a normal dragon is 8-13 ATK and 3-10 HP. But a Hydra is stronger than a dragon, right? With this card the Water element gains a little balance to other elements, because currently the water element doesnt have any strong creatures. This could also increase the popularity of the Water element, because of the unique Hydra card. Thats why im not going to make Hydras for other elements.

Lets Take an example of...
Fire spirit -> 0|2, poisoned 1
It will took more than one turn to die, right, since the hp is 2 and poison is 1?
It just same like What i mean, but, it's not like phoenix that turn into an ash first to regenerate to phoenix again, i mean, it's automatically regenerate but gained +1|+2 OR +1|+?
? is a number that more than 2 and less than five(thats why i write it as +2<?>+5)
More than five, I think it was a little bit big.. especially for creature, except it has delay effect for it..

I mean like that. If you still confuse, i will try to make the slide. Thanks for responding.

Edit Tue, 2Nov2010 00:49 am +07:00 GMT = More than "FIVE", not "FIRE" XD
Oh do you mean its like automatically poisoned and every turn it loses 1 hp and gains 1 attack point?

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190354#msg190354
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 06:19:17 pm »
@cjjkrenzbgt: Don't complicate it please, I mean, mabe saying that with every attack the Hydra gains +1|+2 (so it can't be killed by a 1 or 2 atk creature, but can by a huge attack), as for every head, and you can also make the "immortal heads" thing, as a way of making it weaker to shields and a bit bigger (in space I mean), kind of a "combo creature"...

I must say that this idea (the hydra, not exactly this one) should be in the game somehow, it's like an old-known critter everywhere :D

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190373#msg190373
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 06:47:23 pm »
This card screams for a  :fire :water deck.

Rage Potion has double effect on Hydra for the same cost.

Unupped
Hydra
10 :water for a 7|12
Hydra + 1 Rage Potion
10 :water 3 :fire and 1 card for a 17|7
Hydra + 2 Rage Potions
10 :water 6 :fire and 2 cards for a 27|2

Upped
Ice Hydra
12 :water for a 9|14
Ice Hydra + 1 Rage Elixir
10 :water 3 :fire and 1 card for a 21|8
Ice Hydra + 2 Rage Elixirs
10 :water 6 :fire and 2 cards for a 33|2

I think the original attack should drop to balance
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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190390#msg190390
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2010, 07:08:46 pm »
So, do you like it or is it too strong? Please let me know i want to make it perfect

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Re: Hydra | Ice Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14955.msg190413#msg190413
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 07:42:32 pm »
So, do you like it or is it too strong? Please let me know i want to make it perfect
I'd suggest both a reduce in attack and defence and this could even possibly justify a drop in cost.

 

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