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Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132420#msg1132420
« on: April 09, 2014, 01:50:28 am »
NAME:
Hydra
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Combine all dragons in your field to form a Hydra. They will return to play if hydra is killed or removed from play.
NAME:
Hydra
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Combine all dragons in your field to form a Hydra. They will return to play if hydra is killed or removed from play.

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A more focused twist on the chimera concept
In this case, the purpose is more about anti-CC… For all those who get tired of seeing their beautiful dragons get zapped by rewind.

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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132422#msg1132422
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 02:03:05 am »
A few questions

-If Hydra gets RTed, do you have to play all your dragons from your hand again or what?
-Does this get the GP/Momentum buff/antibuff like Chimera?
-Am I reading correctly that this has health the sum of all your dragons AND if it gets killed the dragons are still alive?? That effectively leaves no way to deal with the dragons' damage, unless I'm missing something, given the amount of CC needed to kill such a dragon.
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132424#msg1132424
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 02:07:42 am »
A few questions

-If Hydra gets RTed, do you have to play all your dragons from your hand again or what?
-Does this get the GP/Momentum buff/antibuff like Chimera?
-Am I reading correctly that this has health the sum of all your dragons AND if it gets killed the dragons are still alive?? That effectively leaves no way to deal with the dragons' damage, unless I'm missing something, given the amount of CC needed to kill such a dragon.
-If RTed the dragons pop back into play

-No, there are no other buffs or status effects applied.

-Yes, the dragons pop back out when this is killed. It is supposed to be nasty anti-CC... but there are still plenty of ways to cope with it. Just not by killing it. (i.e. it does become more susceptible to freeze, delay, and AM)

You could always use momentum and then quint to give it near full protection, but that would require a trio with a minimum of 3 cards... and you would still have to summon all the dragons you want to combine.

I suppose you could use this to give single dragons multiple lives as well.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2014, 02:10:58 am by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132435#msg1132435
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 06:50:20 am »
I like the idea but its too specific to have this high cost. Chimera has almost the same cost and provides momentum+gravity pull and combines all creatures. So I would suggest to reduce it by at least one!
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132437#msg1132437
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 06:57:05 am »
I like the idea but its too specific to have this high cost. Chimera has almost the same cost and provides momentum+gravity pull and combines all creatures. So I would suggest to reduce it by at least one!

Actually, this card can overshadow Chimera by far. Chimera's Gravity Pull is a negative feature 90% of time and, if CCed, no creatures come back. Hydra has protection from RT and instant-kill spells/abilities/comboes of any short.  :entropy/ :life Dragon rushes can be very popular with this card, as well as  :entropy/ :aether duos with TU to copy your Purple Dragons. Of course, it is still a very expensive strategy.
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132444#msg1132444
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 09:52:57 am »
Amazing concept, though maybe a bit on the OP side. +1
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132448#msg1132448
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2014, 11:50:42 am »
what about leaf dragon?

I assume not, but is hydra airborne?
maybe hydra should be ranged? (spitting venom/fire/...)

also, since a hydra is not a dragon,
you can TU hydra's, making one heck of an OTK...
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132449#msg1132449
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2014, 12:04:32 pm »
An amazing idea, 5/5. It extremely reminds me of Yugioh, though:

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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132450#msg1132450
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2014, 12:17:56 pm »
Questions:

How will the Hydra will work? 1 creature with the sum of the creature's attack (Chimera copy like card ) or 1 creature with attack of 1 of the dragons, attacking multiple times per turn ( :3 )?

I know it's antiCC, but had to ask. Does defending applies to Skull shield? And if so, does it generates Skellie?

Can be brutal with Massive dragons... Spamming out a few, then (unupped) Pande once, twice. Dragons are resistant almost to every effect (except Rewind), but PU can make some more dragon (and clearing the opposing field). Then a Chimera with 90-120 HP... but it has a really high cost.

How it will work with a Phase dragon on field? If affects it, does the Hydra will become immaterial?

It would be better if we can see the 'Hydra token' and some example how this will work.

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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132464#msg1132464
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2014, 05:30:20 pm »
So to keep it simple, I think the hydra would function almost exactly like chimera does now except that it tracks internally somehow the dragons that it absorbs. Then, if hydra is removed from play, those dragons are returned to play exactly as they were before hydra was cast.

If this is too tricky to code, it could simply track card codes  and then the dragons pop out as if they were spawned by mitosis... but I like the above option better myself.

Phase dragons get absorbed into chimera, so they would get absorbed into hydra. They won't give chimera immaterial status, so they won't give hydra immaterial status either.

Basically, I'm thinking this could basically just reuse the chimera code with a couple minor tweaks (hopefully!).

Spoiler for Example 1:
You summon a and a then cast this.
You get an 23|32 hydra. You opponent hits it with freeze and shockwave. It dies the two dragons are placed back onto your field.

Spoiler for Example 2:
You summon a . You hit it with rage potion leaving a 17|3. Then you cast hydra and get a 17|3 hydra. Your opponent shoots it with snipe. The hydra dies and the 17|3 Jade dragon pops back out

Spoiler for Example 3:
You summon a and hit it with 5 blessings then cast hydra. You get a 27|27 hydra. Your opponent hits it with RT.
The hydra returns to your hand and the 27|27 Light dragon returns to play (and you will probably just play hydra again the next turn to keep it safe :D )
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132471#msg1132471
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2014, 06:46:56 pm »
um...

what happen when you cast hydra and then chimera...

even reverse time can't harm your dragon when it protected by hydra.  i don't think chimera can...

and i like it.  combination of two opposite element..   ;D

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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132472#msg1132472
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2014, 06:54:46 pm »
What can I say other than I like it. I've always been a fan of the quite week all dragon deck and this makes it better.

I think this card could be added into the game at any time. Well done.
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