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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169943#msg169943
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2010, 08:25:26 pm »
The difference would be instead of adding one or two purify counters and removing poison, it would add purify counters dependent upon your total water quanta.
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My answer is "no, that is a really bad idea". That would completely destroy any poison based decks. If you suddenly have +10 purifies then it would take forever for a poison deck to start having any effect. And then you play another one of these cards and the poisoner is back to square one. I cannot think of any way to find a sensible balance to the card, either it's power is so low it's pretty much useless or it's high enough that having two or three in a deck makes it completely overpowered.

Still don't see what the problem with the card is and the suggested changes just seem bad.

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169964#msg169964
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2010, 08:46:47 pm »
Well, I'm not totally against the idea of this card. However, each element "has it's thing", or theme, right? Well, Life's theme is healing. Every other element that is given a powerful healing spell takes away and dilutes Life's theme. It's sort of like creating a darkness creature with immaterial. Should the idea be discarded right away? No. But it should have a harder time getting to the crucible, and alternatives should be discussed.

Now, to address your using other elements with healing...

Earth: Stoneskin. This isn't technically healing. You can't EM with Stoneskin alone, so it is slightly different.

Light: Miracle and Holy Light. Well, Miracle is really only useful for stalling. Again, it can't let you EM, and since it consumes all your remaining light quanta, it is used in different situations. Holy Light seems to be primarily a creature healing card.

Gravity: I know you didn't mention this, but Black Hole does technically heal. Like Holy Light, it has a significantly different function, quanta denial. The healing seems to be something of a side effect.

Now, back to this card. All of the previously mentioned cards either can't earn you an EM, or they're primarily used for something other than healing yourself. This card, however, has those uses, and those uses only. While Guolin's solution does seem OP(without tweeking, which I know he intended), it does stay within Water's theme.

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg170112#msg170112
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2010, 11:54:17 pm »
Well, I'm not totally against the idea of this card. However, each element "has it's thing", or theme, right? Well, Life's theme is healing. Every other element that is given a powerful healing spell takes away and dilutes Life's theme. It's sort of like creating a darkness creature with immaterial. Should the idea be discarded right away? No. But it should have a harder time getting to the crucible, and alternatives should be discussed.

Now, to address your using other elements with healing...

Earth: Stoneskin. This isn't technically healing. You can't EM with Stoneskin alone, so it is slightly different.

Light: Miracle and Holy Light. Well, Miracle is really only useful for stalling. Again, it can't let you EM, and since it consumes all your remaining light quanta, it is used in different situations. Holy Light seems to be primarily a creature healing card.

Gravity: I know you didn't mention this, but Black Hole does technically heal. Like Holy Light, it has a significantly different function, quanta denial. The healing seems to be something of a side effect.

Now, back to this card. All of the previously mentioned cards either can't earn you an EM, or they're primarily used for something other than healing yourself. This card, however, has those uses, and those uses only. While Guolin's solution does seem OP(without tweeking, which I know he intended), it does stay within Water's theme.
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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg170146#msg170146
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 12:49:33 am »
while i like the idea, i agree that it is probably out of its element (forgive the pun).  good job on making the art tho. 

and i agree, the purity counter idea should probably just replace the existing purity (with some cap, similar to stone skin) rather than be a new card.
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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg170269#msg170269
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 04:51:26 am »
This should belong to life because the only healing water efect is purify, and it is not a "true heal" anyways.
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