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Gerontius

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Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169778#msg169778
« on: October 03, 2010, 05:01:37 pm »
NAME:
Homoeopathic Remedy
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Heal 1 HP for every 2 water quanta in your possession
NAME:
Homoeopathic Cure
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Heal 1 HP for every water quantum in your possession
ART:
Gerontius
IDEA:
Gerontius
NOTES:
Does what it says on the tin. Sort of like an inverse "siphon life" but with a larger effect for a larger cost. I liked the homoeopathic idea that the more you dilute something, the stronger the healing effect is!
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guolin

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169782#msg169782
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2010, 05:04:29 pm »
I think this belongs a lot more in Life. Water already has an Advanced Spell (Ice Bolt/Lance), and Life is the true home of healing, anyways. If you really do like the Homeopathic thing, you could do purify counters instead...

Gerontius

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169784#msg169784
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 05:06:01 pm »
I think this belongs a lot more in Life. Water already has an Advanced Spell (Ice Bolt/Lance), and Life is the true home of healing, anyways. If you really do like the Homeopathic thing, you could do purify counters instead...
Life already has healing spells, and purify is underpowered as a healing spell.

EDIT: Also, light and earth both have healing spells, so why not water?

guolin

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169785#msg169785
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 05:06:48 pm »
I think this belongs a lot more in Life. Water already has an Advanced Spell (Ice Bolt/Lance), and Life is the true home of healing, anyways. If you really do like the Homeopathic thing, you could do purify counters instead...
Life already has healing spells, and purify is underpowered as a healing spell.
So make them Purify counters. That seems the logical way to go.

Gerontius

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169790#msg169790
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 05:11:03 pm »
So make them Purify counters. That seems the logical way to go.
How can you counter purify with this? Logically, the more purifies you have played, the stronger any subsequent positive effect would be so it reinforces it rather than counters it.

Personally, I think this would be a replacement for purify if I added a heal poison action to it as well.

guolin

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169793#msg169793
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 05:13:27 pm »
So make them Purify counters. That seems the logical way to go.
How can you counter purify with this? Logically, the more purifies you have played, the stronger any subsequent positive effect would be so it reinforces it rather than counters it.

Personally, I think this would be a replacement for purify if I added a heal poison action to it as well.
Purify Counters. Not Counter to Purify. As in, +1 Purify Counter heals you 1 when your enemy attacks, +5 Purify Counters (can be achieved with 2 upped Purifies and 1 unupped Purify, for example) heals you 5, etc.

Gerontius

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169799#msg169799
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 05:19:49 pm »
Purify Counters. Not Counter to Purify. As in, +1 Purify Counter heals you 1 when your enemy attacks, +5 Purify Counters (can be achieved with 2 upped Purifies and 1 unupped Purify, for example) heals you 5, etc.
Now I'm completely lost. +5 purify heals you for 5 HP each turn anyway. What are you suggesting this card should do?

Sounds to me like a completely different card that you should design yourself.

miniwally

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169801#msg169801
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 05:21:14 pm »
Purify Counters. Not Counter to Purify. As in, +1 Purify Counter heals you 1 when your enemy attacks, +5 Purify Counters (can be achieved with 2 upped Purifies and 1 unupped Purify, for example) heals you 5, etc.
Now I'm completely lost. +5 purify heals you for 5 HP each turn anyway. What are you suggesting this card should do?

Sounds to me like a completely different card that you should design yourself.
He's suggesting that instead of just healing it should add purify counters.

Gerontius

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169804#msg169804
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 05:22:59 pm »
He's suggesting that instead of just healing it should add purify counters.
What would the point of that be? It's just a weaker version of purify.

guolin

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169821#msg169821
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 05:49:47 pm »
He's suggesting that instead of just healing it should add purify counters.
What would the point of that be? It's just a weaker version of purify.
Not at all, as long as you have no poison counters. It'd be a heal-every-turn. It'll need to be a bit different for the current version and perhaps a cap, though.

Gerontius

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169925#msg169925
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2010, 08:11:11 pm »
Not at all, as long as you have no poison counters. It'd be a heal-every-turn. It'll need to be a bit different for the current version and perhaps a cap, though.
Yes it is the same. Purify already heals every turn. What difference are you trying to suggest here 'cause I'm not seeing one.

The entire point of this is NOT to heal every turn but to provide a one shot boost of health like heal, stone skin or holy light but for water cards. Water is an element associated not only with poison, but also with healing and cleanliness but which for some reason lacks a solid healing card

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Re: Homoeopathic Remedy | Homoeopathic Cure https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13480.msg169931#msg169931
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2010, 08:17:11 pm »
The difference would be instead of adding one or two purify counters and removing poison, it would add purify counters dependent upon your total water quanta.

 

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