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Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041459#msg1041459
« on: February 12, 2013, 03:45:10 pm »
NAME:
Hindsight
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
6 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Return last card played to its owner's hand and remove any effects that card caused.
NAME:
Hindsight
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
5 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Return last card played to its owner's hand and remove any effects that card caused.

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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041463#msg1041463
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 03:54:12 pm »
1. Can it cancel Hindsight?
2. 12 Silences.
3. Some complex things are hard to undo.
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041466#msg1041466
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 03:58:07 pm »
Does this work for spells or permanents?
It's a pretty nifty card, although I imagine that it could be a hassle to code.

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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041473#msg1041473
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 04:12:24 pm »
I think it would borrow Scavenger code for the return part. the other I am not sure about.
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041482#msg1041482
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 04:31:38 pm »
I think it would borrow Scavenger code for the return part. the other I am not sure about.
So, let me say there were , , generated from and in your field. Opponent played to kill your and finished his turn. You mutated the to with :gravity: devour. Then your mutant ate opponent's . You mutated a genereted when is killed to 16 attack with :fire :fire: dive. You finished your turn. Then, your opponent used and revoked the .
What happens?
« Last Edit: February 12, 2013, 04:54:02 pm by choongmyoung »
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041498#msg1041498
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 05:06:54 pm »
Ah, loopholes.

First, this seems reminiscent of Echo, although that is just based around spells.

Second, the example above does prove an issue.  The same could be said for Chimera, but to a less complicated extent.

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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041555#msg1041555
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 07:21:11 pm »
What if was the last action played?
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041557#msg1041557
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 07:30:08 pm »
What card would be returned then?

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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041571#msg1041571
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 08:00:48 pm »
Using this theme, what would be the simplest most effective mechanic?

Somehow we need to use this to correct the most recent action before casting this spell. If this was the first thing played on your turn, it would undo the last action opponent made before ending his/her turn.
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041606#msg1041606
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 10:25:16 pm »
So, for example, if the opponent's last card was Sky Blitz, then the player gets back half of the air damage?
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041613#msg1041613
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 10:47:19 pm »
Interesting idea, but there are too many problems with existing spells or card effects. What if the last card played was a miracle? Would the opponent's health be reverted back to its pre-miracle stage, and the quanta refunded? Coding things like that would be very hard. That about discord? Would the quanta be returned back to its pre-shuffled state? What about things that inflict poison? Are creatures killed by spells immediately re-incarnated? Does removing a shard of patience decrease all creatures' health by 2|2?
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Re: Hindsight | Hindsight https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46797.msg1041620#msg1041620
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 11:00:29 pm »
The player that played Sky Blitz would gain Sky Blitz back in their hand. the player that plays Hindsight would gain back any hp lost due to Sky Blitz.

The only Zone of the game it seems this could not influence is quanta pools.


Would any form of undo card be hard to implement
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