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Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062422#msg1062422
« on: April 21, 2013, 10:34:56 pm »
NAME:
Hijack
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
6 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
While this card is in play, target card is now controlled by both players.
NAME:
Hijack
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
While this card is in play, target card is now controlled by both players.

ART:

IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
Targets card when it comes into play.
If target card is destroyed, so is Hijack.
Creature attacks both Players.
Ability can be used by both Players as long as it is their turn and they can pay for it.
If a creature, it cannot be sacrificed by Immolation or Catapult
If a creature, it cannot be used for Chimera
If a creature, if it uses Firefly, Deja Vu, Scarab, or Mitosis, it generates a copy on the side of the one who used it.
If a permanent, if Stolen, it is destroyed and spawns a copy on the side of the one who played Steal
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062426#msg1062426
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2013, 10:45:14 pm »
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While this card is in play, target card is now controlled by both creatures.

Don't you mean "controlled by both players"? o.O

This looks like a very interesting mechanic, not sure how balanced it is. It can't target immortal creatures or protected permanents, correct?

When you say it attacks both players, do you mean one after the other, or both at the same time each turn?
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062439#msg1062439
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 11:15:32 pm »
If I target a pillar what happens? Does it affect the whole stack?

If I target my opponent's SoP, can I remove the shard?

It seems a bit situational, as you'd normally not have the quanta to play the abilities. So I think the most important effect to take into account, for balancing, is the PU-like effect that affects both creatures and permanents (maybe take the cost of PU and add 1 quanta?).
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062441#msg1062441
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 11:17:51 pm »
you do mean both players I assume. Anyways for most things steal is a better card for permanents. for creatures this is an odd choice. when exactly would you want to use this card?
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062455#msg1062455
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 11:31:52 pm »
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While this card is in play, target card is now controlled by both creatures.

Don't you mean "controlled by both players"? o.O

This looks like a very interesting mechanic, not sure how balanced it is. It can't target immortal creatures or protected permanents, correct?

When you say it attacks both players, do you mean one after the other, or both at the same time each turn?

Derp.  Text fixed.

Yes, it cannot target things that cannot be targeted.

It attacks as if it were one of your own.  So it would attack when you end your turn.

If I target a pillar what happens? Does it affect the whole stack?

If I target my opponent's SoP, can I remove the shard?

It seems a bit situational, as you'd normally not have the quanta to play the abilities. So I think the most important effect to take into account, for balancing, is the PU-like effect that affects both creatures and permanents (maybe take the cost of PU and add 1 quanta?).

It will only affect one.  If the stack is targeted by EQ or any other PC, Hijack is destroyed.

Yes, you can remove SoP in this manner.

I have costing 6 since although it is essentially both a PU and Steal, it is essentially easier to get around due to PC.

you do mean both players I assume. Anyways for most things steal is a better card for permanents. for creatures this is an odd choice. when exactly would you want to use this card?

One thing I can see this used with is Singularity, since it will attack either player and isn't getting rid of it.  It will also make creatures unable to be Immolated or Pult'd, as well as being used for Chimera.  It can be used as a way to flood both fields with Malignant Cells.  Can technically be used to bump up the effects of Empathetic Bond and Hope.  It is an AI deterrent as it will count that targeted card still as its own.  Et cetera.

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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062458#msg1062458
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2013, 11:33:25 pm »
huh those are interesting uses. kinda high darkness cost to use this card though. really have to dedicate quanta production here
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062460#msg1062460
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2013, 11:34:59 pm »
Well, you are taking control of a card [or granting control in some cases], so 'exchange' of control will be a tad expensive.

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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062464#msg1062464
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2013, 11:36:43 pm »
Well, you are taking control of a card [or granting control in some cases], so 'exchange' of control will be a tad expensive.

true true. is this better in duos or more rainbowy decks?
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062477#msg1062477
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2013, 11:46:33 pm »
That will require some playtesting, but I'm guessing it could be used in some Duos effectively.  Too expensive to just be splashed into most Bows.

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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062480#msg1062480
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2013, 11:48:18 pm »
will this take up a creature slot on both sides of the field?
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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062483#msg1062483
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2013, 11:49:56 pm »
No, it will maintain its position of where it was played, but it will be given the Hijacked passive to signify that it is the target.

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Re: Hijack | Hijack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48675.msg1062488#msg1062488
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2013, 11:54:31 pm »
so if you play a chimera after using this card on your opponents guy, do you get +1X the creature or +2X the creature? like are you destroying your opponents creature and your hijacked card as separate things? if that makes sense.
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