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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg399208#msg399208
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2011, 07:16:05 pm »
Why would you want to have flooding in your own field? The only possible use I can see is what Ruta said, besides maybe a very soft counter to Malignant Cell, but not enough to make much sense.

Now, if it was *OTHER* field, maybe there's some idea there.
Malignant Cell is a neutral creature and is not affected by flooding.
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg399581#msg399581
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 06:40:50 am »
"Extend" flooding? That means it won't work without using the flooding card, right? Too situational.
If not, instant kill mass CC for 1 :gravity is kinda OP.
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg399595#msg399595
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 08:23:03 am »
"Extend" flooding? That means it won't work without using the flooding card, right? Too situational.
If not, instant kill mass CC for 1 :gravity is kinda OP.
It is not istant kill because extend flood only to your field.
It should be used with SoP or with other  :water cards which improve their effect is underwater (there are some in in forge and similar, or something from underwater series)

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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg399882#msg399882
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 10:53:37 pm »
"Extend" flooding? That means it won't work without using the flooding card, right? Too situational.
If not, instant kill mass CC for 1 :gravity is kinda OP.
Assuming that it did fully flood the field:
How is something "situational" because it depends on another card that you have?  The situation is that you are using this deck against anything?
Situational usually refers to when you are using something against one specific thing; for instance, if I were to make a card that prevented creatures from using Endow.
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg400230#msg400230
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 05:41:28 pm »
If a card only depends on another card, it it situational. We don't have any of those cards yet, and even at that state we already have some cards that are not too reliable because the use is too situational, and we all know that flooding is one of those. If one card depends on another card, it won't have any use in other decks. Yes, it is situational because you have to use it in a deck than can be countered by flooding AND in a deck that will benefit from this.
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg400301#msg400301
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 09:28:59 pm »
If a card only depends on another card, it it situational. We don't have any of those cards yet, and even at that state we already have some cards that are not too reliable because the use is too situational, and we all know that flooding is one of those. If one card depends on another card, it won't have any use in other decks. Yes, it is situational because you have to use it in a deck than can be countered by flooding AND in a deck that will benefit from this.
This is a good analysis. I should think to your post with almost every card of underwater series, thanks :)

Do you have some idea about how to modify this card?  :water should have a sinegy with  :gravity

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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg400921#msg400921
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 01:41:15 am »
Maybe give it an effect without flooding, like +0|1 to water creatures per cast (maybe too UP?), then make the extend flooding effect when flooding is in play as an additional effect, to make it usable even if you can't draw your flooding. Or maybe a better effect. I really don't know.
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg400941#msg400941
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2011, 02:24:50 am »
Make it drain  :gravity per turn rather than be activated perhaps?
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg401161#msg401161
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2011, 04:02:40 pm »
Maybe give it an effect without flooding, like +0|1 to water creatures per cast (maybe too UP?), then make the extend flooding effect when flooding is in play as an additional effect, to make it usable even if you can't draw your flooding. Or maybe a better effect. I really don't know.
When you don't have flooding, it could be like normal flooding? (or just one row?) Then would extend to whole field with flooding? Good idea?

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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg401556#msg401556
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2011, 11:33:25 am »
Maybe, but just on your side of the field, right?
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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg401582#msg401582
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2011, 12:45:46 pm »
Maybe, but just on your side of the field, right?
Yes, I suppose.
Without Flooding can be used in a SoP combo for example...

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Re: High Tide | High Tide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30967.msg403148#msg403148
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2011, 03:19:05 am »
Suggestion: If all of the other Underwater cards don't fare so well, you could salvage this image into a field quint for flooded water/neutral creatures that drains  :water.
This thing seemed dead inside. It seemed like an automaton, trying to act like as if it was alive. The effect was unsettling.
Orianna made a sound that supposed to a girl's squeal of glee and hugged The Ball. While it might have been touching, it was unfortunately only horrifying.

 

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