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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313474#msg313474
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2011, 03:40:01 am »
How bout Friendly +1/0 and enemy 0/-1
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313477#msg313477
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2011, 03:48:45 am »
How bout the enemy gets -1/-1 and friendly +1/+1 for the upped version or maybe 0/-2 and +2/0?
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313478#msg313478
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2011, 03:50:45 am »
@ johannhowitzer What take would give the flower idea of So & Not
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313481#msg313481
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2011, 03:57:08 am »
Definitely 0|+1 friendly and -1|0 enemy.

Friendly: "our land is beautiful!  Look at the precious, fragile life it has produced.  Let us be strong and guard that life."  *shrugs off a Firestorm*

Enemy: "ooh, pretty flower!  Here, flower flower!  I'm gonna getcha..."  *strikes opponent clumsily due to distraction*
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313489#msg313489
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 04:06:51 am »
I agree
Friendly +0|1, Enemy -1|0

Your Creatures have soft protection for 5 turn and you prevent 45 damage.
4 :life|3 :life would be an appropriate cost.
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313495#msg313495
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 04:12:48 am »
Given that setup for this card, it would have some interesting synergy with Thorn Carapace - most creatures die within five turns to the poison, so they wouldn't get a chance to reset.

I am in favor of making it only three turns, that's 6 damage per enemy creature prevented.  If he has a full field, you prevent 138.
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313500#msg313500
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 04:21:45 am »
EDITED THE CARD! Please go check it out. Thank you johannhowitzer for the help. Also if you have 6 of these then it would be a good battle.
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313503#msg313503
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 04:25:36 am »
You're welcome!  I owe much to this community for support and critique of my own ideas, and giving thoughtful criticism of others' cards is a very easy, fun way for me to give back.  May you become an illustrious, fearsome card designer!

Oh, and don't forget to edit the table, or them Curator peoples will make you do so when you submit it.  ;)
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313506#msg313506
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2011, 04:28:31 am »
May I suggest:
"Last 3 turns. Creatures you control gain 0|+1. Creatures your opponent controls lose -1|0."
the timing of an effect can be in the notes rather than in the card text.
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313510#msg313510
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2011, 04:32:22 am »
if they "lose -1|0" that would mean they gain 1 shouldn't that be worded some other way.
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313512#msg313512
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2011, 04:35:34 am »
Quote from: DSSCRA on April 17, 2011, 04:32:22 am
if they "lose -1|0" that would mean they gain 1 shouldn't that be worded some other way.
True, losing -1 would be a double negative and making it positive. Thank You.
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Re: Help Me So | Help Me Not https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24597.msg313522#msg313522
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2011, 04:44:35 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on April 17, 2011, 04:28:31 am
May I suggest:
"Last 3 turns. Creatures you control gain 0|+1. Creatures your opponent controls lose -1|0."
the timing of an effect can be in the notes rather than in the card text.
Well usually people would like to know how many turns it has before it dissapears, like Sundials or Phase Shields.

EDITED CARD AND TEXT.

Should be complete. Anymore suggestions?
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