Hayes

[bobcamel]

Hayes: X/6 (8 Entropy quanta)
Mine is bigger: X = highest attack value on the field that a non-Hayes creature has + 1

Discuss. No art, as I don't seem to have the required abilities.

Example: Strongest creature on the field is a Colossal Dragon (for some reason), Hayes has 8 attack because Colossal Dragon has 7. The value is updated at the end of every turn, and works with any sort of buffs.

Mine is bigger is the ability's name.

The upgrade also updates its HP this way, but cannot get lower than 6.

[Terroking]

So it consistently TUs the biggest creature's stats? Dunno, seems a bit OP, though 8 entropy probably balances the +1, and the upgrade should be able to get lower than 6, as it would still be the biggest creature, and would make more sense that way. Also how would it decide which creature to copy upped? By AP, HP, or a combination? by only HP it'd be oty-resistant.

[Tea is good]

What if there is another hayes on the field? or what if two or three are played during the same turn. What about a PU?

[harakirinosaru]

What if there is another hayes on the field? or what if two or three are played during the same turn. What about a PU?

Hayes: X/6 (8 Entropy quanta)
Mine is bigger: X = highest attack value on the field that a non-Hayes creature has + 1

It would probably update itself at the end of the turn, in the same way Scarab does.

[Bloodshadow]

For the upgraded version, I suggest removing the min-6 limit.

Also how would it decide which creature to copy upped? By AP, HP, or a combination? by only HP it'd be oty-resistant.

There is a Ruby Dragon (15/2) and a Massive Dragon (8/30) on the field. Hayes would be 16/31.

And this updating at the end of each turn sounds good.

[assassim]

Wouldn't it be better to make hayes start out as a weak  creature like forest spirit or werewolf, then have a one time cost to turn it into the ubermonster

[bobcamel]

It would probably update itself at the end of the turn, in the same way Scarab does.

+karma to you for giving advice. Good reading skills, too, although...

The value is updated at the end of every turn, and works with any sort of buffs.

Also how would it decide which creature to copy upped?

It doesn't copy creatures, it copies values. Each one individually.

For the upgraded version, I suggest removing the min-6 limit.

This'd leave the possiblity of Elite Hayes being worse than a normal Hayes. We don't want that, especially that the Elite would cost more aswell.

Wouldn't it be better to make hayes start out as a weak  creature like forest spirit or werewolf, then have a one time cost to turn it into the ubermonster

Why would it be better, explain. Also, if you play it as the first creature on the field ever, it is just 1/6.

[Tea is good]

No, what I meant about the multiple hayes thing was that each would have to be "bigger" than the others on the field. It would be a cycle. How would one be the biggest if the other by "law" had to be biggest.

[Glitch]

Cards update in a specific chronological order, depending on their placement on the board.

If the only creature on the field is a photon, then:

Hayes 1 would be a 2|2
Hayes 2 would be a 3|3
Hayes 3 would be a 4|4

And so on.

Still, this would be OP, if you in anyway had something like devour, growth, or something similar on the field.  Plus it's undevourable as a card?  OP.

[tyranim]

ya, a couple hayes + lava golem = pwned opponent. too cheap

[Essence]

If the only creature on the field is a photon, then:

Hayes 1 would be a 2|2
Hayes 2 would be a 3|3
Hayes 3 would be a 4|4

And so on.

Sure, that's what happens on turn 1.  But what about the next turn?

Hayes 1 becomes 5/5.
Hayes 2 becomes 6/6.
Hayes 3 becomes 7.7.


Getting just 2 Quintessenced Hayes out early on would pretty much pwn anything except Gravity Shield.

[Delreich]

Did someone forget to #include "readingskills.h" ?

Hayes: X/6 (8 Entropy quanta)
Mine is bigger: X = highest attack value on the field that a non-Hayes creature has + 1

Emphasis mine.


I don't much like this idea anyway though. A mutant dragon is strong enough even when it's not being accompanied by a bunch of even stronger copies.