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Parasite Tree | Leech Tree https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57875.msg1183218#msg1183218
« on: March 23, 2015, 01:54:40 am »
NAME:
Parasite Tree
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|8
TEXT:
When poisoned, it increases hp instead of decreasing.
NAME:
Leech Tree
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|8
TEXT:
When poisoned, it increases hp instead of decreasing.

ART:
vrt http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-art/stuff-i-made/
IDEA:

NOTES:
Mitosis + catapult.
Alfatoxin + catapult.
various buffs + alfatoxin + parallel universe.
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Re: Parasite Tree | Leech Tree https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57875.msg1183220#msg1183220
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 02:01:15 am »
If the main purpose of this is to be Catapult fodder (which, based on your combo suggestions, I'm assuming it is), then what makes this any more superior to simply playing a high HP creature like an Armagio and then playing BB?
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Re: Parasite Tree | Leech Tree https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57875.msg1183227#msg1183227
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 02:12:31 am »
This card is completely useless outside of a combo and, even therein, is slow to be of use. Poisoning this and catapulting it would be less efficient damagewise than poisoning a Voodoo Doll and require an extra card. Admittedly, it can do more than 16 damage but it doesn't transfer poison like the doll either. Meaning that the doll essentially outdamages the tree even then.

Buffing the attack of this creature would be a way to keep the buff around more reliably than putting it on any similarly costed creature but, at the same time, you can do a lot more damage for 3|2 quanta and buffing tough little guys like Graviton Salvager is hardly a common strategy. As a mass attack buff, Nightfall poses the highest potential to that strategy but Vampires and Devourers already outclass the tree in that synergy.

In short, it feels week and poorly implemented. Perhaps the ability could better serve as an anti-death mechanic in life but, even then, it would be highly niche and require something else aswell to make the card worthwhile.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2015, 02:14:28 am by dracomageat »

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Re: Parasite Tree | Leech Tree https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57875.msg1183229#msg1183229
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 02:19:13 am »
This has been done at least twice.

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Re: Parasite Tree | Leech Tree https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57875.msg1183232#msg1183232
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 02:28:29 am »
If the main purpose of this is to be Catapult fodder (which, based on your combo suggestions, I'm assuming it is), then what makes this any more superior to simply playing a high HP creature like an Armagio and then playing BB?
the main purpose is to make use of its ability "When poisoned, it increases hp instead of decreasing."
which gives Parasite Tree hp every turn, a rarely seen tactic in elements, or maybe there isn't such a thing.

besides catapult you can also do some buffings.
(Armagio + BB is more superior since i checked the "Catapult damage table",
your catapult damage increases lesser and less when your hp is increasing.)

buffings
Spoiler for Hidden:
1. buffed crazy monster
just stack all buffs you have including alfatoxin
alfatoxin, blessing, acceleration
0/8
0/10, 3/13, 5/12
7/13
9/14   (+2/+1 every turn, just let it grow like forest spirit.)

2. counter plague, virus, toadfish deck.

3. upgraded cheap crazy buff monster
virus, overdrive
0/8, 0/9, 3/8
6/8
9/8
12/8
15/8 (+3/+0 every turn)

catapults
Spoiler for Hidden:
4. catapult
you can do 2 Alftaoxin + 1 virus on Parasite Tree,
0/8
0/13
0/18
0/23
0/28 (parallel universe)
0/33 0/33
0/38 0/38 (56 damage of catapult or you keep letting it grow like forest spirit.)

5. catapult mini fodder
mitosis or fractal then catapult.

6. Grey Nymph spam alfatoxin then catapult
0/8, 0/10
0/12, 0/14
0/18, 0/20
0/26, 0/28
0/36, 0/38

tanker
Spoiler for Hidden:
Alfatoxin/Grey Nymph + Guardian Angel heal + Gravity pull + basilisk blood
0/8, 0/10, gravity pull
0/32 (Guardian Angel heal)
0/34 (Guardian Angel heal)
0/36 (Guardian Angel heal)
« Last Edit: March 23, 2015, 03:12:27 am by foxrain4 »

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Re: Parasite Tree | Leech Tree https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57875.msg1183236#msg1183236
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 03:09:00 am »
I think there's already something like this in oEtG, or maybe it was something I saw in the Crucible. Either way, not very original and even less useful than other versions.

EDIT: Also, it seems from your posts that you intend this to be used with either Acceleration or Catapult, in concert with Toadfish/Grey Nymph/Parasite. That requires at the very least a trio, or a duo with an ultra rare nymph. In other words, those decks are virtually unusable because 1) very slow 2) very unstable 3) very hard to balance quanta efficiently. And all those decks are overshadowed by monogravity.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2015, 03:12:30 am by Devourer »
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