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Re: Grim | Lord Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg262501#msg262501
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2011, 03:26:40 am »
so it can kill a poisoned armagio?
isnt it a bit OP
the only card that can do something alike is shockwave, and is dual.
Well yeah!! (no, the OP thing not, i really don't understand what that means)
Buuuut, there you have this card, this isn't an op card, this is for a poisoning deck, a deck let's say very useless if not combined with other finisher cards, well than, this card can be ver usefull if combined with retrovirus or plague, am I not right?
This card can kill some powerfull beasts, but, poison can too... am i wrong?, this is another finisher card, a strategy breaker card... but other card can beak an strategy, like devourers vs pillarless deck, or deflagration vs shield/hourglass/sundial deck, soo this card is ok, am i wrong? and if i am, then sue me post your solution.

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Re: Grim | Lord Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264420#msg264420
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2011, 12:56:36 am »
AAAHH!, now the feel is there. i think the card is good and to tell the truth, a poisoned creature is a dead critter walking.

good job on making it better
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Re: Grim | Lord Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264430#msg264430
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2011, 01:30:52 am »
2nd NOTE: We humans are to much infuenced by other people, that's why I have just reset the voting, when you see that "overpowered" is winning you almost don't look at the card, you just say: "Yeah they're right... *overpowered*". So I invite you to vote again analizing the card please, and if you're still thinking its overpowered than post the reason of why it's overpowered, you can always change your vote.
The card is OP. You can kill ANY creature with one of this and plague... They are both on the same element also.
The only insta-kill ability in the game uses 2 cards from DIFFERENT elements (freeze/shockwave), but with this guy, you can poison 5 armagios/growing creatures/dragons/blessed whatever and kill them with a cost of 1 :death.
It's cheap, mono-element (super-stable in a deck) and also it's insta-kill. What's the drawback?

AAAHH!, now the feel is there. i think the card is good and to tell the truth, a poisoned creature is a dead critter walking.

good job on making it better
A lava golem can hold up to 2 poison forever, any gravity/earth creature will deal some damage before dying by poison, not to talk about dragon (and EVERY element has them). Please don't state that Ruby Dragon is the exception, BTW.

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Re: Grim | Lord Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264432#msg264432
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2011, 01:32:32 am »
I like the mechanic but something just doesn't feel right. I'm not quite sure what, but I just don't think the card fits thematically with itself. I don't know if I can really explain why, just a gut feeling that this card isn't quite ready. Maybe too insta-killy? Then again, I'm not one to question new mechanics either :)

The (potential?) Skelly update could alleviate some of this card's issues (I think the term "Undead" was inadvertently coined here for that modification).

EDIT: posted before I saw Krathos' comment. I think that's part of my problem with this card.
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Re: Grim | Lord Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264468#msg264468
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2011, 02:16:35 am »
2nd NOTE: We humans are to much infuenced by other people, that's why I have just reset the voting, when you see that "overpowered" is winning you almost don't look at the card, you just say: "Yeah they're right... *overpowered*". So I invite you to vote again analizing the card please, and if you're still thinking its overpowered than post the reason of why it's overpowered, you can always change your vote.
The card is OP. You can kill ANY creature with one of this and plague... They are both on the same element also.
The only insta-kill ability in the game uses 2 cards from DIFFERENT elements (freeze/shockwave), but with this guy, you can poison 5 armagios/growing creatures/dragons/blessed whatever and kill them with a cost of 1 :death.
It's cheap, mono-element (super-stable in a deck) and also it's insta-kill. What's the drawback?

AAAHH!, now the feel is there. i think the card is good and to tell the truth, a poisoned creature is a dead critter walking.

good job on making it better
A lava golem can hold up to 2 poison forever, any gravity/earth creature will deal some damage before dying by poison, not to talk about dragon (and EVERY element has them). Please don't state that Ruby Dragon is the exception, BTW.
this is what i said, but better explained.

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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264528#msg264528
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2011, 04:29:20 am »
Now the target need more counters to be killed, if it's OP (I don't know what's OP ¬¬) then why? how could I make it better?... post solutions not only destructive criticism... PLEASE...

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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264533#msg264533
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2011, 04:39:05 am »
Now the target need more counters to be killed, if it's OP (I don't know what's OP ¬¬) then why? how could I make it better?... post solutions not only destructive criticism... PLEASE...
OP means "OverPowered". Basically, the card is to strong.

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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264550#msg264550
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2011, 05:32:20 am »
Now the target need more counters to be killed, if it's OP (I don't know what's OP ¬¬) then why? how could I make it better?... post solutions not only destructive criticism... PLEASE...
No proper criticism is destructive. The problem is that it's hard to offer any kind of "constructive" criticism to a card that is too strong, or "overpowered" (I apologize for the jargon). As I'm looking at the card now, it seems a bit all over the place. Since you seem to be a bit new to the Card Creation threads it might help to simplify things and go from there:

"Final Destination" - spell
Effect: kill target poisoned creature.

Don't worry. You'll get the hang of it. My first few cards were flops too :)

See: Barricade | Enclave (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17910.msg243811#msg243811).
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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264557#msg264557
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2011, 05:44:12 am »
Suggestion instead of killing a creature with 3 infection counters why not have it double the number of infection counters? That makes it less powerful but also more versatile.
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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264661#msg264661
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2011, 10:02:43 am »
Suggestion instead of killing a creature with 3 infection counters why not have it double the number of infection counters? That makes it less powerful but also more versatile.
but it's not instant killing.
anyway the card cost is too expensive, i suggest 5 unupped and 5 upped

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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264730#msg264730
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2011, 03:04:05 pm »
Suggestion instead of killing a creature with 3 infection counters why not have it double the number of infection counters? That makes it less powerful but also more versatile.
but it's not instant killing.
anyway the card cost is too expensive, i suggest 5 unupped and 5 upped
True it is not instant killing however it speeds up the death a lot.
3 infection -> 6 infection is almost an instant kill. (on their turn)

Currently the ability is still breaking a taboo from zanz
paraphrased "no more instant kills that do not take the hp of a creature into account"

doubling the poison could be used in more situations, does not break the taboo and still eliminates creatures about as fast as the current ability (if not faster)
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Re: Grim | Grim https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20405.msg264858#msg264858
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2011, 06:30:09 pm »
Suggestion instead of killing a creature with 3 infection counters why not have it double the number of infection counters? That makes it less powerful but also more versatile.
but it's not instant killing.
anyway the card cost is too expensive, i suggest 5 unupped and 5 upped
True it is not instant killing however it speeds up the death a lot.
3 infection -> 6 infection is almost an instant kill. (on their turn)

Currently the ability is still breaking a taboo from zanz
paraphrased "no more instant kills that do not take the hp of a creature into account"

doubling the poison could be used in more situations, does not break the taboo and still eliminates creatures about as fast as the current ability (if not faster)
Well then I'll have to make another card the original reaper would kill you at the instant but doubling the poison counters hmm... i'll just have to name it again and with another image...

 

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