Gallows | Gallows

[Espithel]

NAME: Gallows ELEMENT: Death COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: When Gallows is destroyed, return all non-permanent cards that've been destroyed since it was played.	NAME: Gallows ELEMENT: Death COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: When Gallows is destroyed, return all non-permanent cards you own that have been destroyed since it was played.

ART: IDEA: Frozengaia NOTES: Graveyard mechanic - the card. All spells played, creatures played&destroyed, and spells/creatures discarded are returned to thier respective owner's hand (unupped) or your cards returned to your hand (Upped). Doesn't return permanents for hopefully very obvious reasons. SERIES:

[foxrain4]

interesting effect but the thematics seems a bit weird,
why destroying gallows would return the dead creatures back to life?

[Ge0metry v1.2]

Would this return the earliest cards played/destroyed or the most recent cards? On the second instance of a Gallow being destroyed, can it return the same cards again or have they been "removed" from the graveyard?

[Espithel]

interesting effect but the thematics seems a bit weird,
why destroying gallows would return the dead creatures back to life?

I would call it graveyard, but:
.

You're right, it's weird, but what else can I name it?

Would this return the earliest cards played/destroyed or the most recent cards? On the second instance of a Gallow being destroyed, can it return the same cards again or have they been "removed" from the graveyard?

It would return all at the same time, with the oldest cards returned first.
Multiple gallows give multiple copies.

[Ge0metry v1.2]

Well it wouldn't be at all uncommon for Gallows to return more cards than the player has hand space. Assuming the player has 5 available hand space, and there have been 10 creatures destroyed, Gallows would return the first 5 destroyed right? If on the next turn, the player has another 5 available hand space and another Gallows is destroyed, does it still return the first 5 creatrues that died that game or the next 5?

[Espithel]

That question is slightly vague, so I'll give you four scenarios.

Scenario 1:
Turn 1: Play gallows.
Turn 2: Play another gallows. Five creatures die.
Turn 3: Destroy gallows #1; five creatures are returned.
Turn 4: Destroy gallows #2; five creatures are returned.

Scenario 2:
Turn 1: Play gallows. Five creatures die.
Turn 2: Play another gallows.
Turn 3: Destroy gallows #1; five creatures are returned.
Turn 4: Destroy gallows 2; no creatures are returned.

Scenario 3;
T1: Gallows.
T2: Second gallows. Five creatures die.
T3: Destroy gallows #1; five creatures are returned. Five creatures die.
T4: Destroy gallows #2; 10 creatures are returned, but only a maximum of the first eight go to your hand.

Scenario 4:
T1: Play two gallows.
T2: Play a third gallows. Five creatures die.
T3: Destroy gallow number 1. Five are returned.
T4: Destroy gallow 2. Five are returned.
T5: Destroy gallow 3. Five are returned.


TL;DR: Each gallows only keeps count of things that are destroyed once it enters play - there's no sharing of data between gallows. Once you destroy a gallows, all the cards that are not returned are gone. Forever.

[Ge0metry v1.2]

I'm an idiot, I totally missed "since [Gallows] was played." 

[AD TienzuStorm]

Didn't Zanz say that he wasn't going to implement any form of a Graveyard effect?

[Treldon]

Didn't Zanz say that he wasn't going to implement any form of a Graveyard effect?

I remember that as well. One of the top requests in Game Suggestions and Feedback and the reply - it's in the FAQ - is "No"

[Espithel]

Didn't Zanz say that he wasn't going to implement any form of a Graveyard effect?

He did.

But this isn't a graveyard effect.

It's just a card that looks like one.

[AD TienzuStorm]

Didn't Zanz say that he wasn't going to implement any form of a Graveyard effect?

He did.

But this isn't a graveyard effect.

It's just a card that looks like one.

It still requires some form of a graveyard though.

[Espithel]

Didn't Zanz say that he wasn't going to implement any form of a Graveyard effect?

He did.

But this isn't a graveyard effect.

It's just a card that looks like one.

It still requires some form of a graveyard though.

No, it doesn't.
This card requires no technological addition to elements - it works perfect with all of Elements' current coding.

Notice how it's completely endogenous? You don't need gallows to do anything - gallows works on its own. Okay, you need to deflag it, but that's not the point.