Grant Time| Infuse Time

[greenman777]

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NAME: Grant Time ELEMENT: Time COST: 2 TYPE: Spell TEXT: Change creature element to Time.	NAME: Infuse Time ELEMENT: Time COST: 5 TYPE: Spell TEXT: Change creature element to Time. Creature gains 2 Deja Vu.

ART: none yet IDEA: greenman777 NOTES: This is card version 1. SERIES: Grant (Element)| Infuse (Element) series

series thread
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12623.0.html

[bored_ninja777]

this one i think is a problem. it seems many dont like the idea of giving deja vu to a creature. this is OP with high atk creatures. give it the precognition ability? for 3 instead possibly? not really sure what other time abilities would be good. maybe give it pharoahs ability to make scarabs? a rewind ability in a creature would probably be really good actually... its one of few spells i can think of that isnt used in a creature currently. maybe try that?

[greenman777]

i thought about the rewind idea but i didn't know if it would work

[bored_ninja777]

i like the rewind better. giving any creature deja vu just brings up how OP deja vu is with other creatures. give this to a dragon and u get 2 dragons. i think a creature with rewind is a good idea. it would only cost 1 to play it as well since thats the cost of rewind anyway.

[karis]

but rewind in eternity cost 3 even in upgraded is not it?

[bored_ninja777]

but rewind in eternity cost 3 even in upgraded is not it?

true.. hmm i guess make it 2 then? middle ground. costs enough to even put it on the creature b4 u can even use it.

[Higurashi]

Spells on a stick always need to be more expensive. Sometimes a lot more. It wouldn't work if it was cheaper than Eternity, and having 6 creatures or just a couple (2-3) that can do Rewind would be way too strong. Flying Eternities are balanced because you need a spell to make them flying.

Deja Vu could work if the cost grew exponentially with creature power, but that seems needlessly complicated. Precog would make Time Nymph even less used than it already is. How about the ability to Delay a targeted creature for 1 turn and 1 ?

Of course, there's no real need for granting a skill. If the Element becomes Time, I would suggest it means the cost to play it also becomes Time. I suspect that's what you intended, but I think it needs to be stated on the card.

[Baily18]

this one i think is a problem. it seems many dont like the idea of giving deja vu to a creature. this is OP with high atk creatures. give it the precognition ability? for 3 instead possibly? not really sure what other time abilities would be good. maybe give it pharoahs ability to make scarabs? a rewind ability in a creature would probably be really good actually... its one of few spells i can think of that isnt used in a creature currently. maybe try that?

o.0 doesnt TU basicly deja vu?

[greenman777]

i'm not sure if a creature that has an element change( if rewound). revert back to original\previous element or sent back to deck with the new element in it's cost.

[bored_ninja777]

right.. well a delay would be good option instead for the ability. i forgot golden nymph does precog.. noone uses it so i never see it lol.
as far as one of them being hit with rewind. i would say they would revert to original because it is returning the card. its same as if u get a mutated creature with an ability outside of its normal card status. it goes to the original stats/ability it has b4.

[greenman777]

you all may not like this new idea for 

Grant Time cost 6
Creature gains 4  Send Past: Target creature becomes original form.

Infuse Time cost 6
Creature gains 4  Send Future: Target creature becomes its upgraded form.

i think this needs a high cost because of its power.
cost may not be high enough.

[bored_ninja777]

i really like that idea. its new and it would be an interesting to use. the cost probably should be higher though.