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Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg169879#msg169879
« on: October 03, 2010, 07:22:21 pm »
NAME:
Goblin
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
1 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|1
TEXT:
:life :Call Ally
Put a Goblin/Goblin Marauder from your deck into play.
NAME:
Goblin Marauder
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
2 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|2
TEXT:
:life :Call Ally
Put a Goblin/Goblin Marauder from your deck into play.
ART:
http://joeji.deviantart.com/art/my-GOBLIN-90627929
IDEA:
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NOTES:
The Call Ally ability can only take cards from your deck into play, not from your hand. This ability will prioritize the upgraded card when selecting the card to put into play. So let's say you have 3 upgraded Goblins and 2 unupgraded still left in your deck and you use the Call Ally Ability, a Goblin Marauder will be put into play. The next turn if you draw a Goblin, any use of the ability will not put that Goblin from your hand into play. But you can of course put the other goblins left in your deck into play.
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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170166#msg170166
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2010, 01:40:38 am »
The upgrade might be a bit much

Unupped
Cost: 1 :earth, 5 :life, -22 damage[due to delay]
Benefit: 6 2|1s

Upped
Cost: 2 :earth, 5 :life, -44 damage[due to delay]
Benefit: 6 4|2s
Turn123456
Unupped Damage248121212
Upped Damage4816242424
Total Unupped Damage2614263850
Total Upped Damage412285276100
The upgraded card is twice as good for only a +1 :earth cost total for the entire set of 6.

Also a 6 turn kill for 2 :earth, 5 :life and 3 cards [including the 2 towers] is a bit too efficient
A Lava Golem takes 8 turns,  5 :earth and 3 cards [If you assume a Photon and Imolation]

Turn12345678
Lava Golem79111315171919
Upped Damage4816242424
Lava Golem792033486584103
Total Upped Damage412285276100
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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170261#msg170261
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2010, 04:42:53 am »
It might be better if it is from the hand.
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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170290#msg170290
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2010, 05:33:26 am »
Make it call from your deck to your hand, rather than directly into play, so you still have to pay the :earth?

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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170382#msg170382
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2010, 09:55:50 am »
Thanks for the comments.

First, this card isn't hard to kill whatsoever, and is on par with cards like Elite Antlion in terms of their attack. It has incredible speed but lacks defense, which can be exploited by many cards.

I might consider lowering its attack to compensate for the card advantage, or just let it dump to your hand instead which may make it more reasonable.




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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170604#msg170604
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 06:25:22 pm »
Yes 6 Goblin Marauders are comparable with 1 Elite Antlion and 5 Giant Frogs, however there is also the card advantage issue. I would reduce the attack by 1 to 3|2 to take the card advantage into account.

Goblin should be compared with Antlion and Horned Frog comparable to what though?
Unfortunately
1 :earth for a 2|1 is worth 1 more quanta then 2 :earth for 2|3. So the initial Goblin needs to cost at least 2 :earth.
Fortunatey
1 :life for 2|1 is comparable to 2 :life for 3|3.
I would change Goblin to 2|2 for 2 :earth or 1 :life.

End result
CardAntlionGoblinHorned FrogElite AntlionGoblin MarauderGiant Frog
Cost2 :earth2 :earth or 1 :life2 :life2 :earth2 :earth or 1 :life2 :life
Stats2|32|23|34|43|25|3
OtherBurrow5 Card AdvantageBurrow5 Card Advantage
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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170627#msg170627
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2010, 06:53:51 pm »
^ Very nice. But giant frog has 3 hp, not 2. Not significant to fixing the goblins.

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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg170642#msg170642
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 07:23:10 pm »
Oh. thanks for pointing out the typo. Fixed.
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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg172556#msg172556
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2010, 10:16:05 pm »
This card is currently copyrighted to its author, joeji. To use it, you would need written permission. You could, of course, also look for alternative art. :)
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Re: Goblin | Goblin Marauder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13489.msg172769#msg172769
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2010, 07:38:27 am »
Yeah, but it can be very hard tofind is the art is copyright or not.
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