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Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258249#msg1258249
« on: March 01, 2017, 11:22:59 pm »
NAME:
Angelic Captain
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
7 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 7
TEXT:
Your marked cards can't miss, nor be evaded or blocked. Grants marked allies +1|+1.
1 : Mark a card in target hand.
NAME:
Seraphim General
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
9 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8 | 9
TEXT:
Your marked cards can't miss, nor be evaded or blocked. Grants marked allies +1|+1.
1 : Mark a card in each hand.

ART:
Original Art Links: Knight: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/703880 Wings: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1416478  Modified and merged by OdinVanguard using GIMP
IDEA:
OdinVanguard
NOTES:
"Today will be enlightening, even illuminating"

"The wicked whom in vile darkness delight, shall be made to kneel before the Angels' Light. Use it!"

Provides the :light element with a much needed counter to many shields and also provides a (potentially) massive stat boost as well.

The ability extends to all of your cards that are marked. E.g. it will affect creatures, permanents, and even your spells. I.e. it could prevent SoFr from allowing enemies to evade your spells and targeted abilities.
Spoiler for cards affected:


The stat bonus will stack, so if you have 3 Captains in play, all of your marked creatures in play would gain a total of +3|+3.
SERIES:
Marked Card Mechanic Series
« Last Edit: March 14, 2017, 04:02:46 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258262#msg1258262
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 06:19:43 am »
This is a very interesting concept, I've seen your other 'marked' card ideas but I think this one raises the most questions,
Does the marked damage boost apply to weapons?
If this card marks a pulverizer or trident, can they smash immaterial permanents (because it says marked cards can't be blocked)?
Similarly, can a marked CC spell kill an immortal?
Do damage reducing shields effect marked cards if this is in play?

If the main purpose of this is to be a support card, I think most people would just go with the unupgraded version because that means you can get it out earlier and also you aren't giving your opponent potentially useful marked cards. It isn't there to be a primary attacker so the 3|2 boost probably won't be worth the extra cost imo. Maybe increase the stat boost to allies with the upgraded version?

Also just generally about marked cards,
If you were to fractal a marked creature would all the cards you draw from that be marked as well?

You don't have to rush to come up with answers or anything, just pointing out a few things to consider.
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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258277#msg1258277
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 03:38:32 pm »
This is a very interesting concept, I've seen your other 'marked' card ideas but I think this one raises the most questions,
Does the marked damage boost apply to weapons?
If this card marks a pulverizer or trident, can they smash immaterial permanents (because it says marked cards can't be blocked)?
Similarly, can a marked CC spell kill an immortal?
Do damage reducing shields effect marked cards if this is in play?

If the main purpose of this is to be a support card, I think most people would just go with the unupgraded version because that means you can get it out earlier and also you aren't giving your opponent potentially useful marked cards. It isn't there to be a primary attacker so the 3|2 boost probably won't be worth the extra cost imo. Maybe increase the stat boost to allies with the upgraded version?

Also just generally about marked cards,
If you were to fractal a marked creature would all the cards you draw from that be marked as well?

You don't have to rush to come up with answers or anything, just pointing out a few things to consider.
Love the art BTW  :)
The wording "miss", "blocked", and "evaded" refer specifically to the text you see appear over a card when one of these events takes place.
Gravity shield will display "blocked", while most shields like wings and fog shield will display "miss" and SoFr will display "evade". So I was trying to give players a literal clue as to the mechanics it overcomes.

Immaterial cards will still be untargettable, which is slightly different I think. Although I did have one card (frost lotus) that will affect immaterial creatures. But, it still does so in a manner that is similar to how shields function, so I'm not looking to open that particular can of worms here.

I actually have the wording on the two cards active skill flipped. Will fix it soon.

Essentially, this ability is meant to get around shields that fully avoid damage, and also effects like SoFr (or any like it in the future) that allow evasion.
Damage reducing shields will still function normally.
Similarly, shields like thorns, turtle shield, etc. will still get to apply their effect.
This should help distinguish this effect from momentum, which bypasses everything.

This card's stat buff effect CAN affect weapons, but only if the weapon has been turned into a creature (i.e. by flying / animate weapon, or the Blade Wraith / Poltergeist
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 05:03:31 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258306#msg1258306
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 10:32:33 pm »
Do you get to choose what card is marked?

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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258310#msg1258310
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2017, 04:13:02 am »
Although it doesn't specifically say so in this post, the other concept cards in this series suggest it the selection is random (although it favours unmarked cards in the selection process)
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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258311#msg1258311
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2017, 04:23:10 am »
Do cards with this mark go through bone wall?

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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258345#msg1258345
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2017, 05:46:41 pm »
Do cards with this mark go through bone wall?
I was hoping they would... I guess it depends one what bonewall says when it stops an attack...
If it says "block" or "miss" then yes... if it says "absorb" (which i just didn't have enough room to add) then no.
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Re: Angelic Captain | Seraphim General https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64243.msg1258346#msg1258346
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2017, 05:47:37 pm »
Although it doesn't specifically say so in this post, the other concept cards in this series suggest it the selection is random (although it favours unmarked cards in the selection process)
Yes. It is random (since the text says 'target hand' you only control which hand the card is picked from). Priority is given to unmarked cards.
Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
If your zombie plan is
kill -9 `ps l | awk '{print $2" "$3" "$9}' | grep "Z" | awk '{printf("%s ",$2)}'`
You might be a unix junky

 

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