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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg283992#msg283992
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2011, 07:25:55 pm »
Lemme try and justify its existence.

First of all, its low cost can allow non-gravity decks to still have some basic healing/quanta denial, without shards.

Secondly, it would allow for some interesting combos where you have to buff and then kill your own creatures.

Thirdly, it would be nice for gravity to have some low cost, low health creatures.

Fourthly, the upgraded could easily fit in any deck, allowing tons of possibilities.

Fifthly, it would give  :gravity/ :aether  synergy due to the possibility of combining this with fractal, which still wouldn't be too powerful for it to be OP, for it would be at worst slightly stronger than 2 black holes, and would cost the same as two black holes, but in  :aether instead of  :gravity, and requiring more cards.
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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg283999#msg283999
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2011, 07:28:50 pm »
Sufficient justification IMO. (specifically 4&5. 2&3 were not convincing.)
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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284003#msg284003
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2011, 07:32:25 pm »
A 4 card combo allows for someone to easily not only deal extensive amounts of damage, but drain huge amounts of quanta, increasing every single round. Overdrive works as well. Is gluon's ability passive? Or can I lobotomize away its ability?
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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284020#msg284020
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 07:40:25 pm »
It can be lobotomized.
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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284027#msg284027
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 07:43:47 pm »
Damn. Overdrive won't work then.
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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284048#msg284048
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 07:58:37 pm »
Well, if you guys feel that this would have a place in the game with it as a passive, I would seriously consider changing it.
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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284049#msg284049
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 07:59:54 pm »
NAME:
Gluon
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
1 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|0
TEXT:
Upon death drain up to quanta of each element from enemy which turn into healing. X is its attack
NAME:
Micro Black Hole
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
TYPE:
Crwature
ATK|HP:
1|0
TEXT:
Upon death drain up to quanta of each element from enemy which turn into healing. X is its attack
ART:
none
IDEA:
doublecross
NOTES:
the ability is an active ability.
SERIES:
***Insert series name and link to series page (if any)***

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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284105#msg284105
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2011, 09:21:48 pm »
Everyone is thinking about buffing it to increase it's attack and drain epic amounts of quanta from enemies, but what about a typical upgraded Cremation rush? They usually use Rays of Lights or Ball Lightning as immolation fodder, but considered the upgraded version is free, why not replace those with this card? Cremating is killing. So besides getting +9/+1/+1... quanta, the opponent gets -1/-1/-1... too. This makes fire rushes so much more powerful; cremation will be buffed from recieving 20 quanta to recieving 20 and destroying 12 (total of 32 quanta affected) (in case of rainbow enemy with eash quanta slot filled). The fire deck wouldn't suffer any costs at all either for replacing them, it's just a pure buff.

I'd like to see more counters against rainbows, but this is just overkill... cremation would be buffed by up to 60% (note that most people on PvP2 use rainbow).

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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284109#msg284109
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2011, 09:27:31 pm »
I think this is a well-balanced card with a good concept seed.  ^-^

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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284313#msg284313
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2011, 02:17:14 am »
CURATOR COMMENT
-Add a '0' in the COST section of the upgraded card's table (leaving it blank may seem intuitive for most users, but several other cards in the upper levels also have '0' for cards that don't have a cost)
-Fix the typo of 'Creature' in the TYPE section of the upped table
-Fix the discrepancies in the TEXT sections:

"Upon death drains up to X quanta of each element from enemy which turns into healing. X is its attack."


While I don't dislike the mechanic, Vara's (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22033.msg303501#msg303501) points should be addressed, considering how efficient this card can be in those type of Fire Rush decks...

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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg284316#msg284316
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2011, 02:20:42 am »
Doesn't the card also need art to get in the crucible?

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Re: Gluon|Micro Black Hole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22033.msg290133#msg290133
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 06:59:25 am »
Mhmm, it needs some art, whether it's some 5min filler art you made in paint or some picture found on the internet which you can use within the bounds of fair use.

 

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