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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg448784#msg448784
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 09:46:54 pm »
But Steam Machines are living? Lol, I not only dislike this type of nerfing technique (let's make needlessly complex by making it scale to some ambiguous variable that the user can control by deck-building properly) but am also confused by how a ghost mace somehow gets sharper the more ghosts are nearby.
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg448985#msg448985
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 01:15:50 pm »
As everyone has seen, the core mechanic is quanta destruction. What additional features does this need?
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg448991#msg448991
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 03:13:19 pm »
since skeleton is non-living, should bone dragon be one as well?

also, by non-living, does mechanicals count? (steam engine/armagio/charger)
 
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photons.. light particles..

sparks and lightning balls..

flying weapons..

i like the new mechanic, btw  :P :P
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg448997#msg448997
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2012, 04:25:40 pm »
If everyone agrees with what is considered non-living, I will go with it. Adding all those does make it more versatile.
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449003#msg449003
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 04:48:21 pm »
Destroy rather than scramble quanta may be enough on its own. The buff it receives from a Growing army is not necessary and has higher risks of unbalance.
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449010#msg449010
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 05:03:52 pm »
What is a reasonable attack/quanta destruction value? How high should it be without being OP?
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449030#msg449030
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 06:15:29 pm »
Non living creatures?

that's not much
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449038#msg449038
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 06:26:40 pm »
Here's a list of other dead creatures I pulled from an old thread of mine
List of 'dead' creatures - upgraded is included :

Entropy: Schrodinger's Cat
Death: Skeleton, Mummy, Bone Dragon
Gravity:
Earth:
Life: Forest Spirit?
Fire: Fire Spirit? Ash, Phoenix?
Light:
Water:
Air:
Time: Pharaoh, Ghost of the Past?
Darkness: Minor Vampire?
Aether:
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449110#msg449110
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2012, 12:25:22 am »
Quote from: EmeraldTiger on January 14, 2012, 05:03:52 pm
What is a reasonable attack/quanta destruction value? How high should it be without being OP?
3 :death|3 :death +1 card
Destroy 3
1|3 attack
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(Adrenaline triggers ability on 1st and 3rd attacks if applicable. Ability does not require successful attack.)
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449220#msg449220
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2012, 11:04:01 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on January 14, 2012, 04:48:21 pm
Destroy rather than scramble quanta may be enough on its own.
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But I do agree that trying to make it more original by adding a new, original mechanic is a bit excessive.
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449230#msg449230
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2012, 12:40:46 pm »
okay i didn't know about that. i will let this go.
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Re: Ghost Mace | Ghost Mace https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35654.msg449248#msg449248
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2012, 02:34:37 pm »
I believe that a combination of simple, familiar mechanics (the primary mechanic of quanta destruction supported by a mechanic that gives quanta destruction a unique flavor) is enough to show quanta destruction in a new light.
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