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Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528385#msg528385
« on: August 03, 2012, 03:24:12 am »
NAME:
Genesis
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All active cards are shuffled into deck, quanta is returned and both players start with 7 shuffled cards next turn.
NAME:
Exodus
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All permanents and creatures in hand are played this turn. Quanta generation and card playing locked for 3 turns.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
Genesis
Both players have all their active creatures and permanents shuffled into their decks. The quanta costs for each of these are added to their respective pools. Their hand next turn is 7 shuffled cards (kind of like starting hand).

Exodus
All of your creatures and permanents in hand are played out for the draining of all your quanta in all pools. Your quanta generation and card playing are locked for three turns.


I have two problems.
1) The whole effects for both cards are a bit longer than I can fit on the cards so my wording needs some help.
2) Exodus is a wee-bit over powered at the moment, and I would appreciate and advice on tweaking it. Actually, for a start... it sounds more like a 10+ cost card.
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« Last Edit: August 03, 2012, 03:28:08 am by Jyiber »
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528388#msg528388
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 03:27:15 am »
I do not understand the thematic sense.  Genesis has nothing about starting except it refreshes your quanta.  And Exodus has nothing about an exodus.  I'd actually switch the effects.

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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528390#msg528390
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 03:32:12 am »
I do not understand the thematic sense.  Genesis has nothing about starting except it refreshes your quanta.  And Exodus has nothing about an exodus.  I'd actually switch the effects.

Well, Genesis kind of restarts both players (except health). Exodus has most your cards leave your hand.
It looks right to me... but then... I suck at theme stuff.
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528392#msg528392
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 03:33:52 am »
But an exodus is to leave, not to stay...

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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528396#msg528396
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 03:47:50 am »
But an exodus is to leave, not to stay...
Agreed. Genesis comes from the greek term γέννηση (gennese), meaning, the birth or creation of something. Exodus comes from the greek term έξοδος (exodos), literally meaning "to leave" or "to exit".
And it is kind of weird that the unupped and upped cards have completely opposite effects, more of an  :entropy attribute to me.
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528398#msg528398
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 03:51:15 am »
But an exodus is to leave, not to stay...
Agreed. Genesis comes from the greek term γέννηση (gennese), meaning, the birth or creation of something. Exodus comes from the greek term έξοδος (exodos), literally meaning "to leave" or "to exit".
And it is kind of weird that the unupped and upped cards have completely opposite effects, more of an  :entropy attribute to me.
Well, the opposite effects being a Entropy thing is debatable... but I'm thinking I should change the names.
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528400#msg528400
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 03:54:56 am »
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528402#msg528402
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 04:01:39 am »
For Genesis, you might want to change it to "προς τα πίσω" (Pros ta piso), which literally means, "to rewind" or "start over".
As for Exodus, a nice Anglican term would be "Amass", to summon an assembly.
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528404#msg528404
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 04:06:50 am »
*looks at first card* Hello, Fiber Jar!
Uhh....
I get it?
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528407#msg528407
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 04:22:24 am »
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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528430#msg528430
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 05:44:36 am »
*looks at first card* Hello, Fiber Jar!
Uhh....
I get it?
In case you dont get it: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fiber_Jar
Yeah, and there's a reason why Fiber Jar is Forbidden. Genesis's mechanic is just...wrong.

That aside, I think the themes fit the cards perfectly.

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Re: Genesis | Exodus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42437.msg528756#msg528756
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2012, 06:06:53 am »
*looks at first card* Hello, Fiber Jar!
Uhh....
I get it?
In case you dont get it: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fiber_Jar
Yeah, no. Wasn't into any card games, especially Yugioh. But there does seem to be a problem between some people and Genesis (other people think the names don't fit). Based on a comparison between how that game plays and this one... there's a slight difference. With this you get a refund and can play all or most the cards you "restart with" immediately.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2012, 06:13:32 am by Jyiber »
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