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Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431179#msg431179
« on: November 26, 2011, 10:25:24 pm »
NAME:
Frozen Death
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
Scavenger.
:death :death  : Target is frozen and infected. Frozen death loses 1hp.
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Icy Death
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 7
TEXT:
Scavenger.
:death :death  : Target is frozen and infected. Icy death loses 1hp.
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Scavenger = vulture/condor skill.
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NAME:
Frozen Death
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
Scavenger.
:death :death : Target is frozen and infected. Frozen death is infected.
NAME:
Icy Death
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 7
TEXT:
Scavenger.
:death :death : Target is frozen and infected. Icy death is infected.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431182#msg431182
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 10:29:24 pm »
Very nice CC for :water/ :death. I like the thematic-ness of the card. The one part I don't like is the last part - where it gets poisoned for each time it uses the ability. Before the scavenger can have a big enough effect, it will die. Even healing wouldn't help without increasing its max hp.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431188#msg431188
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 10:37:28 pm »
Very nice CC for :water/ :death. I like the thematic-ness of the card. The one part I don't like is the last part - where it gets poisoned for each time it uses the ability. Before the scavenger can have a big enough effect, it will die. Even healing wouldn't help without increasing its max hp.
My main problem with this card is that without a limit to use, freeze + infect is op. any creature with three hp or less dies to that skill. it's like a repeating schockwave generator.
Would hp loss be better?

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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431196#msg431196
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 11:02:02 pm »
Very nice CC for :water/ :death. I like the thematic-ness of the card. The one part I don't like is the last part - where it gets poisoned for each time it uses the ability. Before the scavenger can have a big enough effect, it will die. Even healing wouldn't help without increasing its max hp.
My main problem with this card is that without a limit to use, freeze + infect is op. any creature with three hp or less dies to that skill. it's like a repeating schockwave generator.
Would hp loss be better? Yes

Chat said so.
Hp loss is at least heal-able; I like it much better that way. Is 2 hp per use a good amount? what amounts did chat suggest?
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431199#msg431199
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 11:12:57 pm »
Nice card!!

I would make him more vulnerable to low cost CC when he's played. Like 2/3 instead of 2/5. Scavenger is strong enough to build him up anyway.

The other thing, is Physalia. It's already so strong in Death/Water duo, I'm not sure they need such a good CC added to their kit. :)

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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431201#msg431201
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 11:15:01 pm »
Very nice CC for :water/ :death. I like the thematic-ness of the card. The one part I don't like is the last part - where it gets poisoned for each time it uses the ability. Before the scavenger can have a big enough effect, it will die. Even healing wouldn't help without increasing its max hp.
My main problem with this card is that without a limit to use, freeze + infect is op. any creature with three hp or less dies to that skill. it's like a repeating schockwave generator.
Would hp loss be better? Yes

Chat said so.
Hp loss is at least heal-able; I like it much better that way. Is 2 hp per use a good amount? what amounts did chat suggest?
One.
If it's found op, i'll put it to two.

Nice card!!

I would make him more vulnerable to low cost CC when he's played. Like 2/3 instead of 2/5. Scavenger is strong enough to build him up anyway.

The other thing, is Physalia. It's already so strong in Death/Water duo, I'm not sure they need such a good CC added to their kit. :)
Possible suggestion. Scavenger is slow, though.
This is meant to be added to death/water and make it a moar duo than rainbow with death mark deck.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431202#msg431202
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2011, 11:16:28 pm »
This seems like a very clever  :water/ :death CC, although I think that the upped needs something more than just +2 hp, maybe make the skill cost 1 :death?
However, that might make it a bit OP, so nevermind.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431204#msg431204
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2011, 11:20:03 pm »
This seems like a very clever  :water/ :death CC, although I think that the upped needs something more than just +2 hp, maybe make the skill cost 1 :death?
However, that might make it a bit OP, so nevermind.
-1 to cost is a no-no imo.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431205#msg431205
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2011, 11:23:15 pm »
So we are reusing Vulture | Condor, Parasite | Bloodsucker AND Arctic Octopus | Arctic Squid with the only addition that the number of skill usages is barely limited?

You can do much better than a chimera.

PS: This card is not currently possible. Scavenger and the activated ability are both Active abilities. Creatures cannot have more than 1 active (lobotomizable) ability at a time.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431206#msg431206
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2011, 11:26:25 pm »
So we are reusing Vulture | Condor, Parasite | Bloodsucker AND Arctic Octopus | Arctic Squid with the only addition that the number of skill usages is barely limited?

You can do much better than a chimera.

PS: This card is not currently possible. Scavenger and the activated ability are both Active abilities. Creatures cannot have more than 1 active (lobotomizable) ability at a time.
Scavenger is an active. Oh damn.
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431211#msg431211
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2011, 11:39:40 pm »
Suggestion: rename the Scavenger ability with (insert name here) and then redefine it in the notes as a passive ability that does the same thing. :P
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Re: Frozen Death | Icy Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34186.msg431245#msg431245
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2011, 01:16:45 am »
Suggestion: rename the Scavenger ability with (insert name here) and then redefine it in the notes as a passive ability that does the same thing. :P
A new creative ability would be better.
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