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Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174282#msg1174282
« on: January 05, 2015, 09:32:25 am »
NAME:
Freezing Rain
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All permanants freeze for 2 turns.
NAME:
Freezing Rain
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All permanants freeze for 2 turns.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
Frozen permanents do not activate. So, no, its not just a forced combo with shockwave.
Countdowns do not stop.
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« Last Edit: January 08, 2015, 01:59:17 am by montrossen »
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174284#msg1174284
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 09:43:21 am »
ooh. on the border of OP if this affects pillars.
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174285#msg1174285
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 09:45:15 am »
I can see this being used in immorushes that have nova as well for slowing down the opponent, but other than that, it's pretty useless, since you slow yourself down too.

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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174286#msg1174286
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 09:48:11 am »
dry spell is a thing.
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174287#msg1174287
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 09:56:24 am »
Water isn't as Perm-intensive compared to some elements, so this might be worth using. I like it. Will countdowns continue ticking while frozen? (cloak/sundial/dims)

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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174289#msg1174289
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 10:17:43 am »
Good use for Water-PC, especially against certain shields / Dials, but I'm sure I have seen this before.
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174661#msg1174661
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 01:33:00 am »
I like this card mechanic very much. Water is a great element to add some permanent control to. I would suggest that countdowns on Dimensional Shield and Sundial still continue, so that this can also be used to thwart those cards and get them off the board.

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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174672#msg1174672
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 01:58:37 am »
I like this card mechanic very much. Water is a great element to add some permanent control to. I would suggest that countdowns on Dimensional Shield and Sundial still continue, so that this can also be used to thwart those cards and get them off the board.
Water isn't as Perm-intensive compared to some elements, so this might be worth using. I like it. Will countdowns continue ticking while frozen? (cloak/sundial/dims)
Yes, countdowns still continue. I'll add it in the notes now.
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174722#msg1174722
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 04:34:20 am »
ooh. on the border of OP if this affects pillars.
If it freezes pillars for 2 turns, this is almost as powerful as a 2 turn silence considering the opposing player won't be able to get quanta to play cards for 2 turns. Of course, this also basically silences yourself as well, but it feels powerful because as long as the user has a head start on the board, they've gained an advantage.

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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174788#msg1174788
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1174794#msg1174794
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2015, 05:22:08 pm »
I just saw a small typo: it's "permanents", not "permanants".
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Re: Freezing rain | Freezing rain https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57304.msg1175760#msg1175760
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2015, 02:04:10 am »
ooh. on the border of OP if this affects pillars.
If it freezes pillars for 2 turns, this is almost as powerful as a 2 turn silence considering the opposing player won't be able to get quanta to play cards for 2 turns. Of course, this also basically silences yourself as well, but it feels powerful because as long as the user has a head start on the board, they've gained an advantage.
The double edge is fairly easy to get around using PA... could run off of earth mark and water pillars... and you would gain access to trident and sopa wardens at the same time...
2 rounds of no-quanta for opponent is quite powerful... With 6 of these, you lock down your opponent's quanta production for 12 turns! Worse, arena decks could pull off 24 turns of lockdown with 2x agility. I'm not sure I want that to be a thing.
Maybe not the worst case of OP, but its at least boarderline.

Pillar interaction issues aside, I like it a lot.
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