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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061710#msg1061710
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2013, 10:05:49 pm »
Will it only stop spell damage or will other non-physical damage sources be stopped as well?
E.g.
-Catapult
-Voodoo Doll
-SoSac (should probably be a no on that one)
-GoTP
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061720#msg1061720
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2013, 10:36:44 pm »
It seems no one has pointed out that the card images don't have the right name :)
As I said before, I really like this card!
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061732#msg1061732
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2013, 11:11:31 pm »
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061758#msg1061758
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2013, 01:09:21 am »
It seems no one has pointed out that the card images don't have the right name :)
As I said before, I really like this card!

I think it wasn't pointed out because it was changed just recently.
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061776#msg1061776
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2013, 02:06:08 am »
Will it only stop spell damage or will other non-physical damage sources be stopped as well?
E.g.
-SoSac (should probably be a no on that one)

The loss from SoSac is a cost, not damage.

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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061791#msg1061791
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2013, 02:50:17 am »
It seems no one has pointed out that the card images don't have the right name :)
As I said before, I really like this card!
Yea, I recently changed it but because I was sleepy and It was late at night I did it as fast as I could so I didn't forget it.

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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061794#msg1061794
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2013, 03:17:04 am »
Will it only stop spell damage or will other non-physical damage sources be stopped as well?
E.g.
-Catapult
-Voodoo Doll
-SoSac (should probably be a no on that one)
-GoTP

Catapult, no because it's from a permanent, which I think shouldn't be physical damage. By physical damage sources, I meant creatures, such as voodoos, which can still use its skill (whether it be passive or not). GoTP is also a creature, but nightmare would be stopped. SoSac, no it wouldn't stop it because I'm talking about permanents, spells, etc from your opponent and thus SoSac wouldn't affect the shield, nor will the shield affect it.

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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061802#msg1061802
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2013, 03:44:29 am »
Will it only stop spell damage or will other non-physical damage sources be stopped as well?
E.g.
-Catapult
-Voodoo Doll
-SoSac (should probably be a no on that one)
-GoTP

Catapult, no because it's from a permanent, which I think shouldn't be physical damage. By physical damage sources, I meant creatures, such as voodoos, which can still use its skill (whether it be passive or not). GoTP is also a creature, but nightmare would be stopped. SoSac, no it wouldn't stop it because I'm talking about permanents, spells, etc from your opponent and thus SoSac wouldn't affect the shield, nor will the shield affect it.

I think the mean GotP's discarding damage.
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061843#msg1061843
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2013, 06:36:41 am »
Will it only stop spell damage or will other non-physical damage sources be stopped as well?
E.g.
-Catapult
-Voodoo Doll
-SoSac (should probably be a no on that one)
-GoTP

Catapult, no because it's from a permanent, which I think shouldn't be physical damage. By physical damage sources, I meant creatures, such as voodoos, which can still use its skill (whether it be passive or not). GoTP is also a creature, but nightmare would be stopped. SoSac, no it wouldn't stop it because I'm talking about permanents, spells, etc from your opponent and thus SoSac wouldn't affect the shield, nor will the shield affect it.

I think the mean GotP's discarding damage.

Oh right, then no, because it's a 'physical source(the ghost)' and therefore, it cant be absorbed.

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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061868#msg1061868
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2013, 09:59:49 am »
like bonewall? Obvious synnergy with mitosis, but too much synnergy? Does it work with that death malignat cell card?
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061912#msg1061912
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2013, 01:51:25 pm »
I don't like this idea too much because of the following:

1) Life doesn't really need another shield, especially one that partially does what an Emerald/Jade Shield can do.

2) It protects against only spell-like and permanent-like effects, leaving you vulnerable against creature-based damage. However, with 6 counters and 2 counters created every time a new creature comes into play (something in which Life is the king in comparison with every other element out there), it makes sure no spell or permanents are ever going to hurt you. In other words, this card is a great extreme in both what it can block and what it can't and this is something I seriously don't like.

3) It is too similar with the Bone Wall effect. Though this is not something bad, there is a HUGE difference at the amount of times a creature is played/generated and those a creature dies.

However, you shouldn't be discouraged. This idea has potential, but it may be better to start again from scratch. Hope I wasn't too harsh; I just try to be helpful here...
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Re: Forest Wall | Forest Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48612.msg1061924#msg1061924
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2013, 02:47:23 pm »
It is well designed for its purpose the question is whether its purpose is valuable. Its purpose is to completely negate the opponent's non creature cards. In general I don't this it is a good idea to have a single card completely negate. Partially negate or mitigate all are more reasonable. However even with that said, this is either a good card and should be continued because it is a good card or it is a good design exercise and should be continued for the practice.
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