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Recreation: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg448690#msg448690
« on: January 13, 2012, 01:13:25 pm »
NAME:
Chaos Rain
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal between 1 to 4 damage for every enemy creatures.
NAME:
Chaos Storm
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal between 2 to 5 damage for every enemy creatures.
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Re: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg448704#msg448704
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 03:22:42 pm »
Severely undercosted and OP.

Average direct hit damage = 2.5

Rain of Fire (3 damage) = 7 :fire | 5 :fire
Pandemonium = 3 :entropy | 5 :entropy

Casting cost should be at least 7 (RoF) + 3 (Panda) + 2 (card efficiency) = 12 :entropy on unupped.
5 (RoF) + 5 (Panda) + 2 (card efficiency) = 12 :entropy on upped.


Essentially, if you remove one of the two modes, the card becomes UP. If both modes stay, it's OP :\
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Re: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg449219#msg449219
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 11:01:36 am »
More than that, no one would use this spell since just one of both effect should clean the field.

Trying to example If i have a card at 5 that gives 7 damage to creature, is ok, but i would never put in the deck a card that with 20 cost gives 28 damage to creature, since the final effect is the same, killing a creature in any case.

It would be better only put the storm and lower the cost

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Re: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg449225#msg449225
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 12:14:57 pm »
"..It would be better only put the storm and lower the cost.."
Yes, at first I think to only do what stat above.. Just putting some weirdness.. ^-^

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Re: Recreation: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg449235#msg449235
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 01:25:06 pm »
Feedback on the reworked version:

- Quanta cost balancing for both versions is pretty spot on.
- Upped version overlaps with upped Pandemonium's niche way too much.
- Card text wording is awkward. Right now, it's implying that it does damage to the opponent for each creature they control. Something like "Deal between 1 to 4 damage to every enemy creature" would be less ambiguous.
- Is the damage randomized for each target, or is the RNG'd result uniform (i.e. the same amount of damage to every creature hit)?
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Re: Recreation: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg449498#msg449498
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 06:54:50 am »
Feedback on the reworked version:

- Quanta cost balancing for both versions is pretty spot on.
- Upped version overlaps with upped Pandemonium's niche way too much.
- Card text wording is awkward. Right now, it's implying that it does damage to the opponent for each creature they control. Something like "Deal between 1 to 4 damage to every enemy creature" would be less ambiguous.
- Is the damage randomized for each target, or is the RNG'd result uniform (i.e. the same amount of damage to every creature hit)?
1. spot on? you mean ?
2. you mean ?
3. Opps. I mean to every enemy creature*
4. It deal random damage to every enemy creature

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Re: Recreation: Chaos Rain | Chaos Storm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35659.msg449514#msg449514
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 10:36:39 am »
By "spot on," I meant that the costs are pretty balanced. As for the thing about Pandemonium's niche, I meant that the upped version of Pandemonium and the upped version of this card are way too similar (both are mass-CC effects in Entropy that only do damage to enemy creatures).
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