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Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15063#msg15063
« on: December 31, 2009, 07:26:38 am »
4 gravity

choose to discard 1 card from your opponents hand (you never get to see their hand anyways so it would be kinda random but it gives you some control

upgraded: 3 gravity

Like my other idea the I haven't thought of the cards name yet

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15064#msg15064
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 07:33:08 am »
It wouldn't be reliable enough. Nor practical. You're basically giving up one of your own cards to hope you get rid of a card your opponent needs. You'd be better off with a card your deck depends on.

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15069#msg15069
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 08:55:04 am »
It wouldn't be reliable enough. Nor practical. You're basically giving up one of your own cards to hope you get rid of a card your opponent needs. You'd be better off with a card your deck depends on.
oh but thats where wrong, this is like a deflag b4 they even play the card. lets say ur fightin a firebolt deck, you practically know that hes savin the bolts for later, this card can save u from those situations.
 eg.Miracle

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15085#msg15085
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 02:18:24 pm »
That's why it's too strong. Hand and deck are safe zones.

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15114#msg15114
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2009, 06:40:15 pm »
this card would not be considred OP, the card your discarding, is just your best guess, you could be wasting 4 gravity on destroying one pillar. Also i guess the cost can be upped to 5/4

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15125#msg15125
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2009, 07:45:56 pm »
It would be fun if it is the next card. Rewind massive dragon, discard. Never to see again. It is not OP, but it is fun.

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15131#msg15131
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2009, 08:00:17 pm »
I guarantee you it would be worse than you think. Of course you'll disagree, but since the chances of this becoming a card are so low, looks like we'll never know for sure.

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15133#msg15133
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 08:03:00 pm »
I guarantee you it would be worse than you think. Of course you'll disagree, but since the chances of this becoming a card are so low, looks like we'll never know for sure.
I definitely disagree with that. especially if the FG's got them. They could potentially end up discarding your entire hand in just a few turns.

EDIT: Fixed my post. I meant disagree, NOT agree.
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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15179#msg15179
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2010, 01:43:40 am »
Demagog is saying that it's weak, not too strong. I'm inclined to agree. We have lots of weak cards though, so...

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15180#msg15180
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2010, 01:51:04 am »
Ya we do have many weak cards. Weak cards aren't bad though. They can add variety. But weak cards are only a good thing when you have A LOT of cards to choose from. With the way this game is right now, and its design, weak cards are rarely used. Once there are a lot of cards, and the weak ones give certain strategic advantages or are necessary for strong cards to work effectively, then they become a good thing.

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15185#msg15185
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2010, 02:46:09 am »
But what hell

You can remove a card from play even BEFORE THE FLOCKING ENEMY PLAYS IT.

This should not be possible.

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Re: Force discard spell https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1708.msg15190#msg15190
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2010, 04:06:00 am »
This should not be possible.
Why not? It's actually a staple of other card games, and technically the contents of an opponents hand not only determine the play-state, but the play-state can influence what cards you play and what cards you hold back. In fact, this would have a number of tactical uses (of course, it would force people to think).

 

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