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Focus Spell | Concentrate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506028#msg506028
« on: May 31, 2012, 02:23:36 am »
NAME:
Focus Spell
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
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TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Silence yourself this turn, the next target-damaging spell become creature of N | 0.
N = spell damage.
NAME:
Concentrate
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
4 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Silence yourself this turn, the next target-damaging spell become creature of N | 0.
N = spell damage.

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NOTES:
Requiring card art


Target-damaging spells include : ice bolt, fire bolt, drain life, lightning and shock-wave. Chaos seed is NOT included.

The spell-creatures deal spell damage and can be reflected by spell-countering shields.

Ice bolt, fire bolt and drain life retain ability to increase damage when you have more quanta. Drain life gains Vampire skill.

Ice bolt may freeze weapon and shock-wave can shatter frozen weapon.


Version 2.0 :

1. One turn delay before you can play a spell-creature and Fractal it. Opponent may play a target-damaging spell to neutralize the effect of this card, or he can simply put up a mirror shield.

2. Only the first target-damaging spell after this card is affected to reduce impact of this card.

3. Cost increase to increase difficulty for fractal spell.
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NAME:
Energy Rein
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
When this card is in play, all target-damaging spells become creatures of N | 0.
N = spell damage on target.
NAME:
Spell Rein
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
When this card is in play, all target-damaging spells become creatures of N | 0.
N = spell damage on target.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:

Requiring card art


Target-damaging spells include : ice bolt, fire bolt, drain life, lightning and shock-wave. Chaos seed is NOT included.

The spell-creatures deal spell damage and can be reflected by spell-countering shields.

Ice bolt, fire bolt and drain life retain ability to increase damage when you have more quanta. Drain life gains Vampire skill.

Ice bolt may freeze weapon and shock-wave can shatter frozen weapon.


Uses :

1. additional death triggers

2. Fractal spell

3. Target-damaging spells lose ability to target creatures (protect your own creatures)

4. Blessing / momentum / chaos power for permanent spells.

Costs are possibly too low, but I'm not sure about that.

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« Last Edit: June 01, 2012, 02:09:51 am by waterzx »

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506030#msg506030
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 02:28:04 am »
So, when used with a "drain" spell, it gains stats of the total quanta used, or just the initial cost?

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506031#msg506031
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 02:29:13 am »
So, when used with a "drain" spell, it gains stats of the total quanta used, or just the initial cost?
what do you mean drain spell ?

I edited the note section for clarification. Only 5 spells can be affected by this card. Tell me if I'm missing something.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 02:34:11 am by waterzx »

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506033#msg506033
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 02:31:30 am »
So if this is on the board and I have 52 :fire, and I play a fire lance, it becomes a 15|0 creature? I am really unsure about the balance because of all the combos that would be pulled off. Fractal fire lance, blessed firelances...etc.

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506035#msg506035
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 02:32:36 am »
So if this is on the board and I have 52 :fire, and I play a fire lance, it becomes a 15|0 creature? I am really unsure about the balance because of all the combos that would be pulled off. Fractal fire lance, blessed firelances...etc.
Wouldn't Flying Fahrenheit be more convenient ?

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506037#msg506037
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 02:41:00 am »
So if this is on the board and I have 52 :fire, and I play a fire lance, it becomes a 15|0 creature? I am really unsure about the balance because of all the combos that would be pulled off. Fractal fire lance, blessed firelances...etc.
Wouldn't Flying Fahrenheit be more convenient ?
Perhaps. Flying fahrens require a fahren and AW for each one you send out, while flying fire lances requires only a fractal and this. And enough fire quanta.

EDIT: With fractal fire lance, it's basically infinite fire lances. Just as a side note, with infinite fire lances, you only need 21 :fire to instantly OTK a 100hp opponent and 31 to OTK a 200hp one.
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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506039#msg506039
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2012, 02:47:24 am »
So if this is on the board and I have 52 :fire, and I play a fire lance, it becomes a 15|0 creature? I am really unsure about the balance because of all the combos that would be pulled off. Fractal fire lance, blessed firelances...etc.
Wouldn't Flying Fahrenheit be more convenient ?
Perhaps. Flying fahrens require a fahren and AW for each one you send out, while flying fire lances requires only a fractal and this. And enough fire quanta.
Hmm....seems a cost increase is unavoidable. Now wait for more comments before making new versions.

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506147#msg506147
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 11:55:11 am »
So this changes a spell into a creature? I'm not certain that is possible given the thematic nature of spells, they only exist for brief moment. Now if this generated a creature when a spell was detected, that would be more allowed.
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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506168#msg506168
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2012, 02:13:13 pm »
So this changes a spell into a creature? I'm not certain that is possible given the thematic nature of spells, they only exist for brief moment. Now if this generated a creature when a spell was detected, that would be more allowed.

Actually, I think this would work.  With the energy provided with this card, it takes the energy of the spell and forces it into the form of a creature for a fleeting moment [0 HP].  However, I see no point to this unless you have the buffs to maintain said creature.

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506174#msg506174
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 03:01:57 pm »
This is a cool idea. I can definitely see myself using this if it were in game. Also, a minor text nitpick - change "When" to "While"
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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506175#msg506175
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 03:09:21 pm »
So if this is on the board and I have 52 :fire, and I play a fire lance, it becomes a 15|0 creature? I am really unsure about the balance because of all the combos that would be pulled off. Fractal fire lance, blessed firelances...etc.
Wouldn't Flying Fahrenheit be more convenient ?
Perhaps. Flying fahrens require a fahren and AW for each one you send out, while flying fire lances requires only a fractal and this. And enough fire quanta.
Hmm....seems a cost increase is unavoidable. Now wait for more comments before making new versions.


Quick fix: Make the actual creature card something, for example if "Burst" then change the text to say "become Bursts of N | 0." Then, have the actual creature card be a 0 | 0 creature (not the spell).

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Re: Energy Rein | Spell Rein https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40881.msg506219#msg506219
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 06:14:24 pm »
So if if i have this and 70 fire, if i fractal i'll have a 24|0, 3x 21|0 and 4x 18|0, for only 9  :aether? OMG

 

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