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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208255#msg208255
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 06:15:33 am »
1) I am updating that formula because it only accounted for unupped.
2) It valued HP as follows
HP:Value
0:-1 [now -3 or -2 still unsure]
1-5:0
6-7:1
8-9:2
10+:3

However you do have the format down.

Another major update I am making is allowing some values to affect the value of other things. Immortal is valued as the .5(Atk+Skill)

I need to calculate HP as a function of turns for this merry Fool.
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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208259#msg208259
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 06:25:04 am »
Dammit Oldtrees. the minute I think I have the format down, you tell me a new one's gonna pop up. XD Can't wait to see it.
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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208261#msg208261
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 06:27:10 am »
I should have the new format ready to put a rough draft in Design Theory within a month.

If you want I could send you a PM with the current draft of the new version.
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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208263#msg208263
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 06:29:15 am »
Maybe you could call it
Jester->Court jester.
Elite jester kinda sounds stupid...
Or maybe Clown->Jester or the other way around.

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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208272#msg208272
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 06:59:16 am »
Well I have to eat crow.

The average attack is 4
The average HP is 10+
and it gain an average of +.5 HP per turn.
(Note it will not simultaneously be assured HP growth and have HP 10+)

4 (average attack) +3 (9<HP) +0 (.5 average HP growth per turn) = 7
So your initial guess of 7|5 was right on.
Sorry for the trouble.
(the HP not being reduced below 1 really made messy excel charts but it shows that it follows a quadratic curve that mimics a line for a good number of turns)

As a gift to make up for the trouble I am going to send you my current progress on the previously mentioned thread in a PM.
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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208381#msg208381
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 12:44:33 pm »
this reminds me of the deviation/variance spell i made a while ago for entropy.  the issue is that if the net effect isnt likely to be positive, it isnt worth it.  and if its too positive, its OP.
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Re: Jester l Elite Jester https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16245.msg208757#msg208757
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 11:50:51 pm »
so with oldtrees saying 7l5 is alright, and all that should i try for lvl1? i mean ive used chaos power since the beginning of my elements time basically, and i usually get +1/+3 which seems pretty nice, so i dont think the -1 to -7 would be an issue due to the attack gain and decrease is generally small, the chances of leaping up or dropping dead is also pretty rare, and im gonna change name to Jester -> Court Jester, elite does sound pretty dumb :o (srry for late post)

 

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