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Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1161972#msg1161972
« on: October 24, 2014, 11:39:46 am »
NAME:
Mass
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
target creature gains -2|5 and is immune to Freezing, delay and damage reduction from shields.
NAME:
Force
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
target creature is immune to Freezing, delay and damage reduction from shields.

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« Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 12:30:37 pm by montrossen »
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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1161977#msg1161977
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 12:24:00 pm »
Does this protect against freezing and delaying only from shields or overall? If only shields, this is very UP, because it's just Momentum with increased cost and worse stats. If overall, this is like Momentum + Quintessence, while only resistant to some kind of CC. Then, it could still get a cost reduction by 1 :gravity.

Also, the unupped decreases atk by 2, but increases HP by 5? If so, then pleasy write "gains -2|+5". Overall, I think this is too similar with Momentum.
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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1161995#msg1161995
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2014, 04:00:00 pm »
if you mean momentum + quant then i like it. not op but a nice cc prevent for gravity. the +5 hp helps a lot for lightning and devour.
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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1162000#msg1162000
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2014, 05:00:18 pm »
This card doesn't really fit together right...

If the idea that you're going for is that the target creature's attack cannot be stopped or reduced, at all, then there's a couple problems. The first being that the name(s) don't fit. Mass and Force really aren't related to this idea. Even ignoring the scientific meaning, the names don't feel right IMO. If you're looking for a science-y type name, then the only name that I can think of is something momentum related, which is obviously already taken. This leads me on to my second problem...

This card is too similar to momentum. It's in the same element and gives the same effect (ignoring shields) but with a kind of half-quint stuck on. Having two cards so close to each other means that either one is going to overshadow the other, or that they'll be so close that we may as well get rid of one. Either way, adding the second card doesn't work. This can be fixed by changing the effect to be different to momentum or by changing the element / thematic in some way. Basically make it different to momentum somehow.

Finally, I don't quite like the weird stat change in the unupped. It's unexplained and unnecessary for me. It just makes the card more obscure and non-fitting. It seems like you needed a way to balance so you just stuck this on. This might not be true, but it's just the way the card feels. Either make it a solid and explainable part of the card (bth upped or unupped) or lose it.

This card can be fixed, I'm pretty sure. I'll leave that up to you if you like.

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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1162030#msg1162030
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2014, 08:44:36 pm »
if it had 0 atk would it go into negative attack or does it limit at 0?
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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1162049#msg1162049
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 10:12:58 pm »
Its freezing and delay from all sources. Not just shields.

And yes, it limits at 0.

Mass gives it HP and less ATK because it adds mass to the creature, making it heavier.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2014, 10:32:15 pm by montrossen »
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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1162100#msg1162100
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 03:43:16 am »
Nice card.
I see it bring awfully close to momentum though.

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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1162178#msg1162178
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2014, 06:43:15 pm »
Personally, i would change damage reduction part, which is really close to Momentum, to protection from CC spells, something like "and damage from spells".
Thematically (imo) Force is some kind of barrier, to help high attack/low hp creatures to survive.
Additionally, it's nice combination with Catapult too, but protection from freeze makes creature unavalible to deal more damage, by frozing it.
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Re: Mass|Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56240.msg1162737#msg1162737
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2014, 01:29:38 am »
Hmm... freeze and delay protection is useful... possible source of OPness depending on how it interacts with BB, however.

The anti-shield effect overlaps a bit to much with momentum for my taste though.
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