Quantum Innervation | Quantum Ennervation

[OdinVanguard]

NAME: Quantum Innervation ELEMENT: Aether COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your pillars and pendulums increase the HP and ATK of your creatures instead of producing quanta this turn.	NAME: Quantum Enervation ELEMENT: Aether COST: 5 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your pillars and pendulums reduce the HP and ATK of enemy creatures instead of producing quanta this turn.

ART: Original art link: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/442752  Modified by OdinVanguard using GIMP IDEA: OdinVanguard NOTES: "Today the world will seem just out of reach" "Today, the elements shall empower you. Use it!" These cards cause each individual pendulum the owner has in play to provide a moderate stat buff / debuff to a randomly selected ally / enemy creature (ally unupgraded, enemy for upgraded). In exchange, the pillars and pendulums do not generate any quanta for that turn. E.g. if you have 5 pillars, then 5 randomly selected creatures you own will get buffed if you cast the unupgraded version, or 5 randomly selected creatures get debuffed if you use the upgraded version. The upgraded and unupgraded spells can both be played in the same turn, but playing either the upgraded or unupgraded more than once per turn will have no additional effect. This is to encourage deck building that mixes both upgraded and unupgraded cards in favor of just one or the other. The buff that each pillar or pendulum provides depends on the element of the quanta that it would generate. For pendulums, this means that the buff provided will be based on the current state of the pendulum. For quantum pillars and quartet pillars (which generate multiple quanta) a random creature will be buffed for each quantum that would be generated and will get the appropriate buff suggested buff / debuff provision buff: +2|+1 and 1 turn of immaterial (1 turn of wisdom if already immaterial) ; debuff: -2|-2 and 1 turn (stacking) silence buff: +2|+1 and +10% evasion ; debuff: -2|-1 and +10% miss chance buff: +1|+2 and 1 turn of invisibility ; debuff: -2|-1 and +1 damage (stacking) from all sources for 1 turn buff: +3|+3 and +1 poison (or -1 purity) ; debuff: -1|-1 and +2 poison (or -2 purity) buff: +1|+4 ; debuff: -1|-1 and 2 turns delay (non-self stacking) buff: (1/2 chaos power) ; debuff: inverted chaos power    buff: +3|+0 ; debuff: -3|-0 buff: -1|+6 ; debuff: 33% ATK and HP reduction (round up) buff: +2|+3 ; debuff: -1|-1 and +1 poison (or -1 purity) buff: +2|+2 and up to 3 hp healed ; debuff: -2|-2 and loses next attack buff: +1|+1 and reduce delay or freeze by up to 1 turn ; debuff: -1|-1 and 1 turn delay (stacking) buff: +1|+2 and +1 purity (or -1 poison) ; debuff: -0|-1 and 2 turns of freeze (non-self stacking) Spoiler for first pass: buff: +2|+1 and 1 turn of immaterial ; debuff: -2|-1 and 1 turn silence buff: +2|+1 and +10% evasion ; debuff: -2|-1 and +10% miss chance buff: +1|+2 and 1 turn of invisibility ; debuff: -2|-1 and +1 damage from next damage source buff: +3|+3 and +1 poison (or -1 purity) ; debuff: -1|-1 and +2 poison (or -2 purity) buff: +1|+4 ; debuff: -1|-1 and 2 turns delay buff: (1/2 chaos power) ; debuff: inverted chaos power    buff: +3|+0 ; debuff: -3|-0 buff: -1|+6 ; debuff: 25% atk reduction (round up) buff: +2|+3 ; debuff: -1|-1 and +1 poison (or -1 purity) buff: +2|+2 and up to 3 hp healed ; debuff: -2|-2 and loses next attack buff: +1|+1 and reduce delay or freeze by up to 1 turn ; debuff: -1|-1 and 1 turn delay buff: +1|+2 and +1 purity (or -1 poison) ; debuff: -0|-1 and 2 turns of freeze I'm still trying to figure out a good mix for buffs provided by each element, but I think it is definitely a good idea to have them provide different buff amounts. Feedback / discussion / suggestions here would be appreciated SERIES:

[foxrain4]

Opening out a new field of buffing is engaging to players and will allow players to have strong creatures in battlefield making it an interesting card to have.

[Higurashi]

Silence a creature? I.e. prevent ability usage for one turn? Weaksauce. Darkness effect is useless, which I guess is why they both debuff for a bit more. The problem with that is that Light's debuff and effect are -both- much stronger.

Any reason Time is strictly worse than the champs Earth and Water?

The only potentially OP ones are those that actually stop the creature from attacking and the ones that will do at least 2 HP per pillar, so Earth, Entropy, Light, Time and Water. In mild cases these will be about equivalent to an upped Pandemonium with added soft CC after. It won't be hard at all to make them the equivalent of two Pandes and they naturally have the potential for even more for each copy. With the current effects, I'd say that deserves a cost raise to 7 or maybe even 8. It's worth mentioning that they fall off considerably compared to Pande when facing swarm decks, however.

Unupped is strong, but seems balanced (it's really just that Blessing is weak). Air's is probably the best effect since it offers good offense and the effect is permanent, but Aether and Darkness are very usable too. Death's is probably the second strongest.

[OdinVanguard]

Honestly, the effects are a rough draft right now to give a feel for some options.
I think I might change debuff to -0|-1 and water to -1|-0 . Then and would deduct HP and ATK with 2 turn inactivation while time deducts both and gives a 1 turn deduction.

For debuff, how about changing to +1 damage from all sources for 1 turn. This would make it stackable as well, which could allow a significant damage ramp against single targets.

For debuff, I originally was going to go with lobotomize, but that seemed a little too potent compared with the weapon

[Higurashi]

If you also allow Time to stack where Earth would not, that seems fine.

The Darkness change would make it pretty good CC assuming you've got enough pillars.
Mass Lobo has been debated quite a bit, as well as Lobo effect as a spell. Personally I think there's only one ability that needs that kind of indirect nerf, and that's Accretion. Unfortunate for the rest like FFQ though. If I imagine this spell in a stall, it doesn't seem quite fair to mass Lobo since several elements do rely on ability creatures to stallbreak (Life uses Mito and FFQ, Time uses Pharaoh, etc.). Maybe one-turn Lobo would be usable in a stall, but I think that would merit the stat debuff being stronger.

[OdinVanguard]

I'll go with the stat debuf being stronger... maybe make the time duration on the lobo-silence effect stack as well. Full ability removal just seems a bit too strong, or at the very least is too hard of a counter to a number of interesting deck types that don't really need nerfing atm.

I'm buffing the 1 turn of immaterial buff to also give 1 turn of wisdom if the candidate is already immaterial.

[Sorathor]

Interesting idea, I like it.

It definitely needs some further tweaking. Some thoughts:

On the buff side, you should definitely nerf aether. It is In-Element and mono-aether is strong enough.
This with 8 pillars and a dragon will give +16/8 for 3+8 trippling the atk. Thats the value of 4! SoWs. I'd suggest +1|+1 or even +1|0 since immaterial gives some protection.
I don't like the atk reduce on gravity. How about +1|+6 but loses attack this turn? Could work nicely against stalls, esp. SoSac keeping its benefits with dolls and catas.
+2|+1 is very strong on air, since the atk can easily be doubled. At least keep them squishy with +2|0

The nerf side is hard to balance since it depends strongly on 2 variables: No. of creatures and no. of pillars.
It doesn't too well against masses, and killing a single creature this seems to be overkill.
Light seems a bit stronger, straight -2|-2 should be fine. You have enough delay effects w/o it.
Fire doesn't protect itself, so -3|0 doesn't fit its theme. I'd like 0|-2 or  even +2|-3.

Finally, I would switch upped and unupped versions, CC seems to fit better into unupped meta and buffing more in upped, see chaos seed.
I really like that you can use both versions for their different purposes simultanously. I enjoy cards that don't become strictly better upgraded.

Overall a nice idea with lots of potential. The versatility in different decks is great.

[OdinVanguard]

I agree that mono-aether is strong, but I don't like moving it to another element since this +fractal spark could easily get out of hand. Keeping this in element in aether mitigates that combo somewhat.

I think dropping to +1|+0 in aether is reasonable since it has potential to give shield bypass via temporary wisdom buff.
I'll drop air to +2|+0 as well since the evasion buff provides some protection of its own.

I think +2|-3 might be a little too risky to be useful for since it already has RoF which would outcompete this... maybe I can come up with a novel debuff... I'm open to suggestions here too.

As for switching debuff vs buff for upgraded /unupgraded, I was trying to go for a symmetry with the chaos seed effect, but if people think it will disrupt unupped meta I have no problem switching it.