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Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg315906#msg315906
« on: April 20, 2011, 02:06:30 am »
NAME:
Fire Stream
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All non-neutral Pillars and
Pendulums generate an
additional  :fire.
Streams do not stack.
NAME:
Fire Stream
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
1
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
All non-neutral Pillars and
Pendulums generate an
additional :fire.
Streams do not stack.
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There is an appropriate stream for each element.
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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg315949#msg315949
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 02:44:33 am »
DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS!!!

nice card but might be a bit too power full overall I prefer ot/kael's umm whats the name soul pillar I think. but with some balancing this to could be epic win.
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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg315968#msg315968
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 03:11:09 am »
maybe you could make it so that the streams could change one cluster of pillars into fire pillars.... that way you could get some serious quanta rolling but you have to deny the quanta of the original pillars

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg315974#msg315974
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 03:17:59 am »
Why not include Quantum Pillars [ :rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :fire]?
This pays for itself rather quickly. Why not raise the cost and change it to  :fire to increase the time it take to pay itself?
Perhaps 7 :fire|6 :fire? With a cost like that you might even be able to allow the streams to stack. (but not cross of course :) )
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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg316128#msg316128
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 11:44:40 am »
some comments:
    Neutral pillars do not exist - They are called quantum.Fire already has 2 quanta generating card other than the pillars and pendulums which are brimstone and cremation. This would be redundant.Why not extend than to all elements: All Pillars and Pendulums (except quantum) generate an additional quantum from your mark.
    Streams do not stack.The cost should be higher. A devourer cost 2 :darkness. Random quanta worth a bit less than fix ones and here the effect is multiplied by the number of pillars.

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg316227#msg316227
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 02:50:13 pm »
Actually, it should be all non-other pillars for the text, just in case Zanz decides to include more pillars in the game.

Interesting thought for a generating permanent but like OT said it pays for itself very quickly. Not sure about how to change the generation effect though since Kael's Harmonic Tower already boosts pillars based on element. It might need a slight cost raise, but considering it doesn't stack (maybe that's why they can't cross? ;)) it doesn't need to go much higher.

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg316232#msg316232
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 02:55:47 pm »
Actually, it should be all non-other pillars for the text, just in case Zanz decides to include more pillars in the game.
Going by flooding, non-neutral.

some comments:
    Neutral pillars do not exist - They are called quantum.Fire already has 2 quanta generating card other than the pillars and pendulums which are brimstone and cremation. This would be redundant.Why not extend than to all elements: All Pillars and Pendulums (except quantum) generate an additional quantum from your mark.
    Streams do not stack.The cost should be higher. A devourer cost 2 :darkness. Random quanta worth a bit less than fix ones and here the effect is multiplied by the number of pillars.
1. Yes, they exist, and they are called quantum.
2. Fire is just first on the list of elements, there would be one for each element.
3. There is a stream for each element. I want it to be possible to generate quanta not matching your mark, to bring in more deck possibilities.
4. I agree, it costs too little. I'm not sure how much it should cost, but I want it to be other quanta.

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg316243#msg316243
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 03:04:25 pm »
3. There is a stream for each element. I want it to be possible to generate quanta not matching your mark, to bring in more deck possibilities.
4. I agree, it costs too little. I'm not sure how much it should cost, but I want it to be other quanta.
If there is a stream of each element and they don't stack. What happen when you play a life stream and a death stream?
For the cost, I would suggest 5|4 at least ...

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg316244#msg316244
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 03:07:26 pm »
maybe playing one stream destroys the other already on the feild, so u can only have one at a time out...

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg498830#msg498830
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 05:38:22 pm »
Looking through my old card ideas, looking to see what I can submit/expand on.

I think this could cost about 6/5?

It would constitute a fairly large metagame change, but seeing as it's balanced across elements I think it would work out.

I want to see viable trios in game and I think this could be a good way to do that.

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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg498946#msg498946
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 10:16:25 pm »
6|5 would probably be reasonable.
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Re: Fire Stream | Fire Stream https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24801.msg499178#msg499178
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2012, 05:48:55 am »
Looking through my old card ideas, looking to see what I can submit/expand on.

I think this could cost about 6/5?

It would constitute a fairly large metagame change, but seeing as it's balanced across elements I think it would work out.

I want to see viable trios in game and I think this could be a good way to do that.
If it works out that would be awesome. Right now color choices are basically mono, duo, or rainbow. Some in between would be nice and this should help make balancing quanta production a lot easier in those cases.
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